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"9mm vs 40 sw" The great handgun debate
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:07 am
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:07 am
I've been searching the Internet trying to decide between the 2 and this is what I've accumulated
9mm: cheaper ammo, less recoil, faster followup
40: Higher ammo, little more recoil, bigger caliber
I've decided on the p320 by sig, I want it in 45 acp, but nobody has it and probably won't for a while. So I ask the outdoor board, settle the debate please
Not sure why the down votes, I'm honestly interested in both and just not sure
9mm: cheaper ammo, less recoil, faster followup
40: Higher ammo, little more recoil, bigger caliber
I've decided on the p320 by sig, I want it in 45 acp, but nobody has it and probably won't for a while. So I ask the outdoor board, settle the debate please
Not sure why the down votes, I'm honestly interested in both and just not sure
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:10 am to public_enemy
its not even a debate man.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:10 am to public_enemy
The OB absolutely hates the .40 but never provides any real reasons for the hate.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:11 am to public_enemy
I believe in accuracy over bullet size, knock down power, or speed. A well placed round with a 22 will take an intruder out. If you can't shoot straight get a 12 gauge and some buck shot.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:21 am to public_enemy
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:23 am to public_enemy
.40 is slowly fading in popularity. That being said, it could still be purchased during the ammo panic when 9mm was scarce.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:26 am to AlxTgr
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The OB absolutely hates the .40 but never provides any real reasons for the hate.
LINK
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· Contemporary projectiles (since 2007) have dramatically increased the terminal effectiveness of many premium line law enforcement projectiles (emphasis on the 9mm Luger offerings)
· 9mm Luger now offers select projectiles which are, under identical testing conditions, I outperforming most of the premium line .40 S&W and .45 Auto projectiles tested by the FBI
· 9mm Luger offers higher magazine capacities, less recoil, lower cost (both in ammunition and wear on the weapons) and higher functional reliability rates (in FBI weapons)
· The majority of FBI shooters are both FASTER in shot strings fired and more ACCURATE with shooting a 9mm Luger vs shooting a .40 S&W (similar sized weapons)
· There is little to no noticeable difference in the wound tracks between premium line law Auto enforcement projectiles from 9mm Luger through the .45 Auto
· Given contemporary bullet construction, LEO’s can field (with proper bullet selection) 9mm Lugers with all of the terminal performance potential of any other law enforcement pistol caliber with none of the disadvantages present with the “larger” calibers
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:27 am to Shexter
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.40 is slowly fading in popularity
cant give em away. glad people are realizing it's a shite cartridge
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:30 am to Carson123987
quote:That can't be supported.
it's a shite cartridge
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:32 am to AlxTgr
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The OB absolutely hates the .40 but never provides any real reasons for the hate.
9mm - 124 gr Federal Hydra-Shok - 345 ft/lbs energy at muzzle
40 S&W - 165gr Federal Hydra-Shok - 352 ft/lbs energy at muzzle
You can carry 17+1 rounds of 9mm in a Glock 17 in it's standard magazine.
You can carry 15+1 rounds of 40 in a Glock 22 in it's standard magazine.
You can typically carry 1-2 more rounds of 9mm than 40 in every single stack subcompact carry pistol as well.
It is asinine to make the decision to be forced to carry less rounds of 40 with more felt recoil which will lead to slower and less accurate follow up shots when there is almost no difference in ballistics that would equate to incapacitating someone. Also, the entire reason the .40 S&W was developed was complete horseshite to begin with.
1986 FBI Miami Shootout
But, I know youre trolling and already know all of this so this is for the OP.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:34 am to dnm3305
quote:Good grief you're a miserable a-hole. What I said is absolutely true. You see stuff like carson's "shite cartidge" all the time with no actually reasoning. Stop making posts up in your tiny little mind and think like a grownup for once.
But, I know youre trolling and already know all of this so this is for the OP.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:42 am to AlxTgr
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Good grief you're a miserable a-hole. What I said is absolutely true.
What I said was basically giving you a compliment by assuming you were an intelligent guy. No one needs to explain to you why the 9mm is superior in every way to the 40 because as the knowledgeable guy that you are, I assumed you already knew this. It's not a shite cartridge. It's a shite attitude to choose it over a superior cartridge. It's almost identical to the 9mm except it's harder to shoot accurate, forces you to have less capacity, is more difficult to get back on target and does all of this while offering no advantage.
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with no actually reasoning
I, along with anyone else every god damned time this comes up, just gave you plenty of logical and perfectly good reasons.
And you literally said this after quoting Carson's post that gave you SIX valid reasons.
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 11:45 am
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:44 am to dnm3305
That's great. I said hate in my post. But carry on and argue something else as usual.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:47 am to AlxTgr
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That's great. I said hate in my post.
No, no no. Clarify this, so we can knock this out and move on. You said the OB never gives you any reason for the hate of the .40cal and my post was directly refuting that exact statement and proving you wrong. In what way am I arguing anything but that?
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 11:48 am
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:51 am to public_enemy
To avoid this issue I bought a 357sig. It's one loud-arse gin with a ton of muzzle flash, but damn if it doesn't induce permagrin when you shoot it. Smile / grimace in pain from the noise, what's the difference?
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:55 am to Gaston
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Gaston
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bought a 357sig
You always buy stupid, unnecessary shite. It's expected of you. Just take a look at your Tacoma.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:59 am to AlxTgr
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Good grief you're a miserable a-hole. What I said is absolutely true. You see stuff like carson's "shite cartidge" all the time with no actually reasoning. Stop making posts up in your tiny little mind and think like a grownup for once.
He just posted an entire argument.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:01 pm to northern
How would I go about getting that in south Louisiana?
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