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7-08 reloading data
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:21 pm
Anyone have a pet accuracy load you care to share? Have a 700 rem that won't behave and need ideas.
Thanks
Thanks
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:37 am to mallardhank
My Remington XP-100 7-08 handgun has been very forgiving and is accurate w/ a number of loads, all using W/W brass and Remington 9 1/2 primers. Here's what I've got so far:
140 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip, 44.0 gr Varget
130 gr Speer BTSP, 45.0 gr Varget
120 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip, 44.0 gr H4895.
All loads are sub MOA at 100 yds. The bullets are seated 0.035" off the lands. Reloader 15 was also an accurate powder in my gun, but lagged behind the others in velocity. In my experience, changing primers doesn't usually have a big effect on accuracy, but altering seating depth can. Don't forget to check for other potential areas that can rob accuracy, including: bedding issues, loose scope/rings/base/action screws; faulty scope; damaged crown. While these are top end loads, they're safe in MY gun. Take the appropriate safety precautions using similar loads in YOUR gun. Good luck and keep us updated.
140 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip, 44.0 gr Varget
130 gr Speer BTSP, 45.0 gr Varget
120 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip, 44.0 gr H4895.
All loads are sub MOA at 100 yds. The bullets are seated 0.035" off the lands. Reloader 15 was also an accurate powder in my gun, but lagged behind the others in velocity. In my experience, changing primers doesn't usually have a big effect on accuracy, but altering seating depth can. Don't forget to check for other potential areas that can rob accuracy, including: bedding issues, loose scope/rings/base/action screws; faulty scope; damaged crown. While these are top end loads, they're safe in MY gun. Take the appropriate safety precautions using similar loads in YOUR gun. Good luck and keep us updated.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 2:03 am to TigerOnThe Hill
Thanks for the loading info. I have some varget but have only used it in 223 with good results. Trying a load found in the nosler manual using 43.5 of trail boss with 140 ballistic tip and rem 9&1/2 primer. Thoroughly cleaned the barrel and will check barrel float and all screw torques. Great comment regarding muzzle crown - not often thought about but very critical.
Will post results after range test.
Will post results after range test.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 6:35 am to mallardhank
Very thorough and nicely done, TOTH.
Did you use copper solvent? A lot of people seem to leave out this step when it is one of the biggest robbers of accuracy.
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Thoroughly cleaned the barrel
Did you use copper solvent? A lot of people seem to leave out this step when it is one of the biggest robbers of accuracy.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 7:34 am to mallardhank
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Great comment regarding muzzle crown - not often thought about but very critical
you have more info on this? i "may" know what you are talking about, but not sure.
tia
Posted on 10/10/14 at 7:55 am to TigerOnThe Hill
I wish I had time to load my own. Respect.
I've been shooting the Barnes TSX 120 gr. out of mine, and I absolutely love it.
I've been shooting the Barnes TSX 120 gr. out of mine, and I absolutely love it.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:19 am to mallardhank
quote:
Anyone have a pet accuracy load you care to share? Have a 700 rem that won't behave and need ideas.
Thanks
You are gonna have to make up some loads and go out and shoot. My kids' guns shoots just about everything I run through them.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:55 am to offshoretrash
On a few of the rifles that I've had barrel work performed on, the gunsmiths have re-crowned the barrel and the results have been outstanding. Any imperfection in the machining at the muzzle end will screw up accuracy, whether this happened at the factory or possibly a dropped or mishandled gun. If you have a rifle that refuses to shoot and you've done everything else,try recrowning.
I have a Ruger 77/22 all weather in 17 Mach 2 that I had the barrel fluted to lighten it up. The smith recrowned it on his own. It will literally put consecutive shots thru the original hole at fifty yards. It shot ok before the work, but not like that.
On reloading, if you don't then you should. It's very rewarding to improve the accuracy with custom loads to fit the gun. You usually can't buy them as good as you can make em.
I have a Ruger 77/22 all weather in 17 Mach 2 that I had the barrel fluted to lighten it up. The smith recrowned it on his own. It will literally put consecutive shots thru the original hole at fifty yards. It shot ok before the work, but not like that.
On reloading, if you don't then you should. It's very rewarding to improve the accuracy with custom loads to fit the gun. You usually can't buy them as good as you can make em.
This post was edited on 10/10/14 at 8:57 am
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:03 am to bapple
Only thing you need is a copper solvent in most rifles and followed up with whatever CLP you like. Hoppe's #9 BR Copper Solvent is my choice.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 10:49 am to bapple
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Did you use copper solvent? A lot of people seem to leave out this step when it is one of the biggest robbers of accuracy.
I'll pass, never used it and never will. Leave some fouling in that barrel or put a couple rounds through it before shooting at anything you want hit if you take all the copper out. Copper fills the imperfections in the barrel and without it you'll get flyers or at the very least you'll be fighting your zero wondering why it's off for the first few shots.
At least that's my opinion.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 11:05 am to mallardhank
I'm sure it's just a typo, but I'd check that load for Trail Boss. I don't have my Nosler book in front of me right now, but the Hodgdon web site only shows one load for Trail Boss w/ the 7-08 and it's a reduced load. Trail Boss Load Data I bet you meant a different powder.
What powders have you tried thus far? What powders do you have available to use?
What powders have you tried thus far? What powders do you have available to use?
This post was edited on 10/10/14 at 11:10 am
Posted on 10/10/14 at 5:21 pm to kengel2
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Leave some fouling in that barrel or put a couple rounds through it before shooting at anything you want hit if you take all the copper out. Copper fills the imperfections in the barrel
I agree. There was a time that I used the aggressive copper removers, including Sweet's, but I no longer do so. I clean my guns at the end of the hunting season w/ one of the foaming bore cleaners, run a patch through the bore w/ a 3:1 mix of Kroil/Shooter's Choice Cleaner, then put the gun up for the year. After a prairie dog hunt, I clean my guns the same way. Having said that, I need to clean two of my prairie dog guns as I did a fair amount of shooting for load development after the last pd hunt.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:40 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
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120 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip, 44.0 gr H4895
This is my main load.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 10:16 pm to offshoretrash
My bad. The powder is Big Game not trail boss. Thanks for the heads up.
Ran several patches with Butch's bore shine, even did some brush scrubbing then more wet patches. Clean as a whistle, then light oiling with gunzilla. will run a dry patch thru before heading to the range .
Thanks for all the responses
Ran several patches with Butch's bore shine, even did some brush scrubbing then more wet patches. Clean as a whistle, then light oiling with gunzilla. will run a dry patch thru before heading to the range .
Thanks for all the responses
Posted on 10/10/14 at 11:56 pm to mallardhank
Good luck. Let us know how it goes. I'm hoping to try out either my 130 gr Speer BTSP or 120 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip load on an AR doe Sat!
Posted on 10/11/14 at 2:11 am to TigerOnThe Hill
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There was a time that I used the aggressive copper removers, including Sweet's,
That's exactly what my dad uses and what I've used in some of my rifles.
So I understand that shooting from a completely copperless barrel allows the imperfections to affect accuracy. But by the same token, how would letting copper get to a really high stage of buildup not affect accuracy? I guess my conclusion is that there has to be a point of diminishing returns in terms of copper fouling, unless I'm just thinking about it in the wrong manner.
Posted on 10/11/14 at 1:44 pm to bapple
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But by the same token, how would letting copper get to a really high stage of buildup not affect accuracy? I guess my conclusion is that there has to be a point of diminishing returns in terms of copper fouling, unless I'm just thinking about it in the wrong manner.
No, you are thinking about it correctly. I just dont use the super aggressive cleaners and solvents. I use the foam cleaner and a nylon brush. That seems to take the right amount of copper out while not stripping it completely. Generally, it clean the barrels of my guns somewhere around 500 rds. Its not an exact number and will depend on the gun, you can tell when the accuracy drops a little. Its a hard thing to quantify, if had a lot of guns it would be harder, but I sold most of the guns that just sat. I really only shoot 3 rifles and one pistol for the most part so its easy to see when its not me missing anymore. And when I talk about accuracy falling off, that is all end user defined. Im talking sub moa rifles and the pistol just follows the trends.
Posted on 10/11/14 at 4:41 pm to kengel2
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I use the foam cleaner and a nylon brush. That seems to take the right amount of copper out while not stripping it completely.
This is what I was looking for.
Good info!
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