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.308 vs 7mm-08 for a young un?
Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:36 pm
REB Jr. will be 11 this year and he's a pretty good sized kid. He's been shooting a .44 mag Handi Rifle since he was 7. I'm looking to get him a more grown up rifle this year for his birthday.
He's got pretty long arms so he doesn't need a youth rifle. I have never personally shot either one, but read the charts and it appears the 7-08 has a little less recoil. That's not really a big factor, but it may help in the decision making process.
What's the OB's opinion between these 2 rounds, or is there another caliber I should be considering?
He's got pretty long arms so he doesn't need a youth rifle. I have never personally shot either one, but read the charts and it appears the 7-08 has a little less recoil. That's not really a big factor, but it may help in the decision making process.
What's the OB's opinion between these 2 rounds, or is there another caliber I should be considering?
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:41 pm to REB BEER
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.308
Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:42 pm to REB BEER
I never shot a .308 but the wife and I both have a 7mm-08 browning x-bolt. I grab it more than my 30-06. Its a fine shooting gun for whitetail. Recoil is nothing. Never had a deer run when hit. I shoot Winchester 140g Ballistic Silver Tips and have always had a pass through with a more than adequate exit hole
Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:43 pm to lsuchamps23
That's kind of what I'm leaning towards. Plus, my dad reloads ammo and has a .308, so ammo would basically be free. 
Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:43 pm to REB BEER
7mm-08 is an awesome deer round. We have it and the 260. Both are great.
The 308 is likely a bit more versatile, but the 7mm-08 can be a lifetime round and gun for whitetail. That's all I got.
The 308 is likely a bit more versatile, but the 7mm-08 can be a lifetime round and gun for whitetail. That's all I got.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:44 pm to SeaPickle
quote:there's a punch line somewhere.... too soon?
7mm-08
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:50 pm to Chad504boy
either would be just fine.. both great rounds. 308 would be easier to find anywhere if that matters.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:50 pm to REB BEER
If recoil is not an issue, I'd go with the 308. One of the best rifles ever made, especially for deer, and there will ALWAYS be 308 ammo available.
I've always heard 7mm08 was for women and kids, and have never owned one. Sounds like Reb Jr is past that. Enjoy spoiling him
I've always heard 7mm08 was for women and kids, and have never owned one. Sounds like Reb Jr is past that. Enjoy spoiling him
Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:51 pm to REB BEER
Why not a 270? I'd also think long and hard about getting him a wood stock/blued gun. First guns are something you want to keep around for a long time, and there isn't anything better than a nice wooden/blued gun.
I shot my first deer with a 300 Win mag when I was 12. Yeah, my dad is an a-hole
I shot my first deer with a 300 Win mag when I was 12. Yeah, my dad is an a-hole
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:58 pm to Hammertime
.308, thread. More versatile, more rounds available, etc. Buy him some Hornady Lite rounds to help make the adjustment (40% reduced recoil) and call it a day.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:06 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
there's a punch line somewhere.... too soon?
was thinking the same...just dont take a neck shot?
Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:16 pm to Hammertime
.308
I love blued and wood, but for a first gun, I'd go SS and synthetic. I agree, it's a gun you want to have forever. And a SS/syn will hold up and look a lot better through the years. I tore shite up as a kid. My youth rifle and shotgun look like they've been through hell and back. You just don't take care of things as a kid. (I didn't at least)
Save the purty guns for when he will appreciate them more.
I love blued and wood, but for a first gun, I'd go SS and synthetic. I agree, it's a gun you want to have forever. And a SS/syn will hold up and look a lot better through the years. I tore shite up as a kid. My youth rifle and shotgun look like they've been through hell and back. You just don't take care of things as a kid. (I didn't at least)
Save the purty guns for when he will appreciate them more.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:19 pm to REB BEER
quote:
What's the OB's opinion between these 2 rounds,
They're both really FINE rounds. When faced w/ the same decision when my son was 11 y/o I was considering the same two rounds as you. This was before factory loaded reduced recoil ammo. I ended w/ the 308, largely because I already had loading dies, bullets and brass for it. I made my own reduced recoil loads using the 125 Nosler Ballistic Tip at 2400 fps. He killed a bunch of deer w/ that load (including one buck he killed when my son had a broken collarbone on the gun side). Yes, ammo availability can be a problem for the 7-08. Our small town WM doesn't even stock 7-08 ammo. I've killed 4 deer w/ 7 mm handguns and 7 w/ a 308 handgun at velocities that would be similar to a reduced recoil load and I can't say that I could tell any difference amongst them. All were found inside of 50 yards and had decent blood trails. You really can't go wrong w/ either gun.
quote:The 260 Rem is a really good starter deer rifle as well, but ammo for it is even harder to find than for the 7-08.
or is there another caliber I should be considering?
I killed a deer this season w/ a 260 Rem handgun and it performed about like the 7-08 and 308.
The 25-06, 270, 280 Rem and 30-06 are also fine rounds, but all things being equal will have a little more recoil that the 308 based cartridges because the 30-06 based cartridges use more powder. Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:21 pm to REB BEER
Both have managed recoil loads and both will serve him well for a long time I think he would be happy with either one - long term I think a 308 would be better.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:21 pm to Hammertime
[quote]Why not a 270?
This, and then he has a nice gun he can use for life.If recoil is an issue for now then get a box of reduced recoil ammo and prob solved.This set up will kick about the same as the 44 mag handi rifle he said his son was already using.
This, and then he has a nice gun he can use for life.If recoil is an issue for now then get a box of reduced recoil ammo and prob solved.This set up will kick about the same as the 44 mag handi rifle he said his son was already using.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:34 pm to FISH N TIGER
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Why not a .270? This, and then he has a nice gun he can use for life.
You think a .308 isn't? I have a badass .308 and no telling how many people have killed deer with a .308.
Plus a .308 has a short action.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:34 pm to DownSouthDave
I guess I respected my guns as a kid. Can't say the same for BB guns, but for grown up guns, I did and will always take really good care of them. Hell, I have a late-60s 1100 with factory bluing that still looks great
Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:38 pm to Hammertime
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I guess I respected my guns as a kid
Same here. My dad gave me an 870 wingmaster for my 11th birthday and he taught us to completely clean everytime we went squirrel hunting. I've taught my son the importance of keeping his guns clean and taking damn good care of them.
That being said, I don't see why a 308 can't be a gun for a lifetime. My grandfather hunted with his until the day he died.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:41 pm to REB BEER
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I don't see why a 308 can't be a gun for a lifetime.
it could and what would be cool is when your son's son becomes of age, its his immediately and not when you die...
Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:52 pm to REB BEER
I wasn't saying that. I was saying he'd cherish his first rifle a lot more when he gets older if it weren't just a run-of-the-mill stainless/synthetic. There isn't really any craftsmanship in that, and there's really nothing for the kid to clean and enjoy
I was just suggesting looking at a 270, but if you already reload 308, then that would be best
I was just suggesting looking at a 270, but if you already reload 308, then that would be best
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