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re: Would cops be less trigger happy if guns were outlawed?

Posted on 8/4/15 at 8:38 am to
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 8:38 am to
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Cops would be a whole lot less triggerhappy if the majority were disarmed.


Yea they could then just run around like the SS

Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 8:39 am to
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You've made this insane assumption that outlawing guns would mean less people would own them


Well first off I think you replied to the wrong person. Second, how can you "own" an illegal item?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 8:44 am to
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Second, how can you "own" an illegal item?


So your claim that someone can be in possession of something 100% of the time and because they cant legally "own" it that it somehow drastically alter the argument here?

100% of the people that shoot an kill cops disobey law 100% of the time. That is an indisputable fact.
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 8:44 am
Posted by galactic outlaw
the milky way
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 8:46 am to
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Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 8:47 am to
I have an idea!! Lets outlaw outlaws! Problem solved..
Posted by galactic outlaw
the milky way
Member since Aug 2015
31 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 8:48 am to
Make gun control mimic that of the U.K. Police can then carry batons.
Posted by forksup
Member since Dec 2013
8817 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 8:51 am to
It's too late. If the U.S. wants to do this, they would have to start 100+ years in advance. But even then, there are wayyyy too many out there already. Maybe in the 1800's.
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 8:55 am to
I feel dumber having opened this thread. Thanks.
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 8:57 am to
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Yea they could then just run around like the SS


I love this kind of stupidity.


Jim Bob and Bubba with their tricked out AR-15 knockoffs aren't doing anything to prevent us from running around "like the SS."

The fact we aren't out to eradicate a race of people, oppress people, or generally do Nazi shite keeps us from doing that. The fact we took an oath to protect and serve our country/community stops us from doing that. Most importantly, the fact we aren't evil prevents us from doing that. We've got better guns than you anyway...
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:01 am to
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So your claim that someone can be in possession of something 100% of the time and because they cant legally "own" it that it somehow drastically alter the argument here?


I didn't claim anything, I was just questioning his semantics.

quote:

100% of the people that shoot an kill cops disobey law 100% of the time. That is an indisputable fact.



And where did I try and dispute this?

I feel like the reading comprehension of the OT has gone down hill lately. Is it too hot outside?

Let me state this very clearly: I am not advocating that the US outlaw all guns. I recognize that people still break the law. I pointed out that even if guns were banned, a black market would continue to exist in the US for criminals to obtain fire arms.
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 9:03 am
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:04 am to
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Catman88








I think you misunderstood me. I'm saying disarm most of the cops and make killing one automatic death. Maybe have their weapons under lock and key only to be brought out during certain times
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:06 am to
How many AR-15 knockoffs have killed police officers versus handguns? Serious question.

For the record I do not own a gun. I do not care to have one in my house. But I certainly believe the day you take guns away from the people that do not break the laws is the day that this country will self destruct.
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 9:10 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20864 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:07 am to
I don't think the idea is too far off. If you stop the manufacture of guns, but keep possession legal, the number of guns available to all will decrease. The US is the leading manufacturer of guns in the world. How will the average criminal get his guns if the market supply dries up?

I do think police are trigger happy because of the threat they perceive. If they think the perp they are approaching isn't armed, the interaction tends to go a little better.
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:08 am to
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I think you misunderstood me. I'm saying disarm most of the cops and make killing one automatic death. Maybe have their weapons under lock and key only to be brought out during certain times



I'd like to apologize for mocking you in the past. It's become very apparent you've got some sort of intellectual disability.
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:09 am to
Is that a non sequitur? That's totally irrelevant to what I said.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:09 am to
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Jim Bob and Bubba with their tricked out AR-15 knockoffs aren't doing anything to prevent us from running around "like the SS."


I kind of disagree. An armed populace does deter an overly aggressive government to a degree. That's what I think is the idea behind the 2nd ammendment. That and the basic right to self protection.

quote:

The fact we took an oath to protect and serve our country/community stops us from doing that.


The road to hell is paved with good intentions. The nazis thought they were acting for the good of Germany.

I'm not saying that modern police are on the level of the nazis. It's just a perspective to think about.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:09 am to
Suck my intellectually disabled dick
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12060 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:10 am to
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if that weapon was never legally sold, how would it end up in the criminals hands?


You know how cocaine is illegal but some people manage to get their hands on it? Drug cartels would just become gun cartels.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:10 am to
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Jim Bob and Bubba with their tricked out AR-15 knockoffs aren't doing anything to prevent us from running around "like the SS."


And this was relevant? how?


Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20437 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:12 am to
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Drugs are illegal... So obviously nobody uses drugs right? There is no way to buy drugs right?

Why do some idiots believe that it would be any different with guns?

This, 100 times in a row.
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