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Winterized backflow preventer-question

Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:21 pm
Posted by geauxfish24
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:21 pm
I rotated the two test cocks 1/4 of a turn as instructed to drain, but they have been draining for 10 minutes showing no signs of slowing. How long should it take to drain?
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:28 pm to
Have you shut off the water inlet?

Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:28 pm to
What style of BP is it, and model?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Have you shut off the water inlet?



What I was thinking.
Posted by geauxfish24
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:30 pm to
I guess not. Any clue on where this is located?
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

I rotated the two test cocks 1/4 of a turn as instructed to drain, but they have been draining for 10 minutes showing no signs of slowing. How long should it take to drain?


Depends on how much air is in the system. The VB should be at the highest point in the system so it shouldn't be draining the entire volume of the system through it.
Posted by geauxfish24
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:31 pm to
600 WOG
Posted by geauxfish24
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:31 pm to
600 WOG
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:46 pm to
Turn off the supply valve and turn of your controller. If you are draining it but have the supply valve on it may take until the Tigers win another NCAAF Championship to drain it......although it wouldn't freeze.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:48 pm to
If not, remember that if you BFP is below a pressurized line it has to drain all of that piping before it stops.

In which case, you BFP is worthless.
Posted by geauxfish24
Member since Feb 2008
2143 posts
Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:52 pm to
I'm following these instructions:

Winterizing your backflow device properly is easy, will save you a great deal of money and only takes one or two minutes:
1. Shut off the water to your sprinkler system at the main valve or stop-and-waste.
2. The next step will require a standard small flat head screw driver. Drain the water from the backflow
preventer by opening the test cocks. (There are 2 test cocks on the side or top of your backflow
preventer), to open them turn the little screws 1/4 of a turn.
3. Turn the valves on either side of the assembly 1/4 turn so they are not completely closed or open.
If properly winterized your backflow preventer should be able to sustain the cold winter months.


My issue is the main valve I guess
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:58 pm to
Yep. Sounds like your inlet valve is leaking by.
Posted by geauxfish24
Member since Feb 2008
2143 posts
Posted on 1/4/15 at 6:01 pm to
What does this mean?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

Winterized backflow preventer-question
quote:

showing no signs of slowing


I can say with 100% certainty that functionally you are now winterized.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

If not, remember that if you BFP is below a pressurized line it has to drain all of that piping before it stops.

In which case, you BFP is worthless.


Um, no.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

600 WOG


BTW, 600 WOG is probably not the model. WOG = water, oil, gas... meaning it's suitable for all of those uses.

600 is probably an air pressure rating.

What type of system is this in? Industrial or home?
Posted by geauxfish24
Member since Feb 2008
2143 posts
Posted on 1/4/15 at 6:09 pm to
Home. I think my problem is locating the main valve. I'm guessing it's where the valve is that shuts off water to the entire house but the box is full of water.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

My issue is the main valve I guess


Ah, sprinkler system. You're right about the main valve. You still have pressurized water coming into the BFP and it is just draining out.

Leave your BFP as is and fix the issue on your main supply side.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 6:12 pm to
I don't know much about sprinkler systems, but I would suspect there is some sort of shutoff right before your main inlet on the distribution point in the sprinkler system. That's the one to close.

Doubt it would be in the meter box unless you have a separately metered sprinkler system.
Posted by HurricaneDunc
Houston
Member since Nov 2008
10472 posts
Posted on 1/4/15 at 6:17 pm to
My water shutoff valve underground is stuck - can only get a half turn. So I just wrap mine in a sheet/tarp and pray.
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