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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter

Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:08 am to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:08 am to
no but based on how he took off after the G-wagon it is easier to infer that it was intentional than that it wasn't.

But either way we are forming opinions, not stating facts.

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:10 am to
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But either way we are forming opinions, not stating facts.


he may have "rammed" it. but nobody can prove that.

nobody.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:12 am to
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no but based on how he took off after the G-wagon it is easier to infer that it was intentional than that it wasn't.

But either way we are forming opinions, not stating facts.
I disagree. I would say it is the most probable he was tailing them to get a license plate

That is the most probable outcome of the reasons he was following after an alleged hit and run
Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:17 am to
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I disagree. I would say it is the most probable he was tailing them to get a license plate

That is the most probable outcome of the reasons he was following after an alleged hit and run


That's opinion and not fact.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:18 am to
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That's opinion and not fact
I think the probability is a fact



However, it is my opinion that I believe the most likely provability is what was occurring
Posted by Rocky4LSU
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:19 am to
Is there a site I can read trial testimony? Reading Lawyers trying to out lawyer each other is not what I signed up for.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 11:20 am
Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:24 am to
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Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:26 am to
Ramon Antonio Vargas' tweets have been very good.
Posted by Rocky4LSU
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:27 am to
You lawyers try batting this around...If hayes was a good enough shot to hit RS twice in the legs, why didn't he just cap WS twice in the legs while he was walking to the doorside if he was in fear for his life? 2 hits with a .45 is enough to negate the threat and his progress to retrieve his weapon, trust me.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:39 am to
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why didn't he just cap WS twice in the legs while he was walking to the doorside if he was in fear for his life? 2 hits with a .45 is enough to negate the threat and his progress to retrieve his weapon, trust me.


because most people that have never fired at another human don't think about much at all.

they panic. hence why most keep firing until out of ammo
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:42 am to
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Thanks for posting that.
Posted by nola000
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:44 am to
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Except that's not what happened because Hayes isn't a cop


Doesnt matter. You have just as much right to open carry a firearm as a LEO does in this State.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:49 am to
looks like fuller is killing it right now
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:55 am to
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quote:
Next time a cop Slams into the back of your vehicle on purpose so hard it blows out your back window




FIFY


That hasnt been established in court. By "that" I dont mean that he rear-ended him. Thats understood. It hasnt been established why he rear-ended him.

1. Accident by C. Hayes - May have been an honest accident because he was following too close trying to get the license plate number. After all, C. Hayes was chasing him because W. Smith allegedly damaged his vehicle. Why would he purposely add to that damage himself?
2. Intent by C. Hayes - C. Hayes was angry and vindictive. Although it seems to have been established that he was the calmest individual on the scene so this scenario seems unlikely. Plus, above.
3. Intent/Accident by W. Smith - W. Smith brake-checked him on purpose because he was following him. Maybe wasnt expecting an actual accident but was trying to scare him off his tail. W. Smith was highly intoxicated so maybe he underestimated his own rate of speed and/or deceleration.
4. Accident by W. Smith - W. Smith was highly intoxicated and didnt notice the vehicle in front of him slowing and starting braking too late and got rear-ended by C. Hayes who was following too closely.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 11:56 am
Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:02 pm to
How does the DA not object to this question?

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J. Fuller: If facts were same but roles were reversed, would Will Smith be sitting at the defense table today? K. O'Neal: I doubt it.

Posted by reddman
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:04 pm to
I think that's allowed during a cross examination.
Posted by SDwhodat
Member since Apr 2007
2546 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:04 pm to
Reading about the testimony of this O'Neil character and also Hernandez yesterday, why couldn't they have just shot each other
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:05 pm to
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I think that's allowed during a cross examination.

yeah... Foret now saying the State calling O'Neal may have been a mistake b/c leading questions can be asked on cross
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 12:06 pm
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:06 pm to
Sounds like pure speculation
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:08 pm to
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Reading about the testimony of this O'Neil character and also Hernandez yesterday, why couldn't they have just shot each other
What was O'Neils problem?

It isn't his fault the Mexican maniac wanted to fight him
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