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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:04 am to ihometiger
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:04 am to ihometiger
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I'm calling this case now--the DAs office will lose as the evidence and facts are very flimsy along coupled with the stand your ground law.
Hayes will get off if I was betting.
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:06 am to tylercsbn9
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Daniels: Hayes is going 23 mph and hits the brakes and goes down to 7 mph before impact. @wdsu
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:07 am to TigerNlc
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His whole life isn't playing football for your enjoyment.
That's what he gets paid for.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:07 am to TigerFred
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That's what he gets paid too much for.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:09 am to TigerFred
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That's what he gets paid for.
You don't have a life outside of what you get paid for?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:09 am to TigerNlc
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Daniels: His car's data recorded will show Hayes hit brakes and did not ram someone. 'Nothing intentional about it.' @wdsu
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Daniels: The driver of the SUV, Smith took a few swings at the driver, Cardell Hayes - and his wife tried to pull him away. @wdsu
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Daniels: Says Hayes only grabbed gun after Smith charged at him. @wdsu
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Daniels: Smith indicated 'I got a gun too and I'll show you what to do with it.' @wdsu
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Daniels says Racquel was pleading with Will 'not to get his gun' @WDSU
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 11:13 am
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:16 am to Nado Jenkins83
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Daniels: Smith reached into his car, and glove box, only then did Hayes fire. He doesn't deny taking Smith's life. @wdsu
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:16 am to Nado Jenkins83
Why does defense keep saying he went in the glovebox? Gun wasn't in the glovebox. Prosecution just admitted it wasn't in the glovebox.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:17 am to Winkface
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Daniels: Hayes did not stand over Smith, he put the gun on top the Hummer. @wdsu
then why wasn't it reported first day.
glove was somewhere out of plain sight. hence why it wasn't found until days later
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:21 am to Nado Jenkins83
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Daniels: You gonna hear 911 calls, Hayes was saying 'call the police, paramedics to get him some help.' @wdsu
lol at the downvoter who doesn't want to see the defense statements.
its one of a few posters
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:23 am to Nado Jenkins83
Hayes should walk IMO. He wouldn't even be in jail if it wasn't will smith.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:23 am to TigahJay
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Daniels: Witnesss says the occupancy of the Mercedes were he aggressors, the people in the Hummer were trying to calm things down. @wdsu
this will make or break the defense
ETA: Im gonna wait to hear these statements to decide if guilty or not, but I agree if it wasn't Will Smith it probably doesn't fall this way
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 11:25 am
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:23 am to Nado Jenkins83
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Daniels: Hayes did not stand over Smith, he put the gun on top the Hummer. @wdsu
Can we just go ahead and make it a rule that any account of a shooter "standing over the victim" is false?
Consistently hear witness accounts of a shooter standing over the lifeless body of their victim and it's seemingly never what actually happened.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:25 am to JohnnyKilroy
Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 1m1 minute ago
"Short white or hispanic guy who takes his shirt off is absolutely irate.Folks on the scene will tell you folks in Mer. were very aggressive
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 48s48 seconds ago
Def.: Hayes, O'Neal greeted by a shirtless man (now said to be Hernandez) who is very irate. Racquel Smith trying to pull Smith back.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 45s45 seconds ago
Def.: Hayes has gun at his side when shirtless man tells him 'you ain't gonna do nothin' with that gun. You ain't bout that life.'
"Short white or hispanic guy who takes his shirt off is absolutely irate.Folks on the scene will tell you folks in Mer. were very aggressive
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 48s48 seconds ago
Def.: Hayes, O'Neal greeted by a shirtless man (now said to be Hernandez) who is very irate. Racquel Smith trying to pull Smith back.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 45s45 seconds ago
Def.: Hayes has gun at his side when shirtless man tells him 'you ain't gonna do nothin' with that gun. You ain't bout that life.'
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:25 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Can we just go ahead and make it a rule that any account of a shooter "standing over the victim" is false?
Consistently hear witness accounts of a shooter standing over the lifeless body of their victim and it's seemingly never what actually happened.
I mean it may have happened. im sure witnesses will prove it true or false.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:26 am to JohnnyKilroy
What is the project duration of this trial before going to the jury?
Week?
Two Weeks?
Week?
Two Weeks?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:26 am to TigerFred
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Daniels says there is a video of what happened and DA didn't even bother to get it. @wdsu
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Daniels: 18 days until Hayes was indicted and the only people NOPD talked to are in Smith's camp. @wdsu
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Daniels: Says person in Smith's car, Richard Hernandez, left scene that night. @wdsu
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 11:28 am
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:27 am to lsupride87
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Hayes has gun at his side when shirtless man tells him 'you ain't gonna do nothin' with that gun. You ain't bout that life.'
fricking white people
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:28 am to Nado Jenkins83
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this will make or break the defense
Not really.
They can be the aggressors all they want. That doesn't rise to the level of taking someone's life.
They need to prove the factors necessary for the self-defense claim. If they can prove what they are saying they will make a case of it. At least enough for some reasonable doubt to creep in
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:28 am to Nado Jenkins83
that is half of what the defense wants to present and have been throwing shite at the wall since the beginning was an inept and corrupt NOPD. 80% of what's been thrown out there has already been proven to be nothing but bullshite lies.
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