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Why can't free market determine things anymore?

Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12120 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:03 pm
I will preface this by saying that I am a mid 30's white male business owner so I am everything this country stands against but I just don't understand why people don't let the free market handle bad business anymore.

- I am a concrete guy that hires good people of all races and no issues with it.
- I fully understand why government funded and government run facilities must try to cater to all fairly.
- What I don't understand is why a privately owned business must cater to the same. If a retailer is privately owned and don't have handicap accessibility, why must they have it? We had a string of lawsuits around my area where a law firm came in and threatened law suits against several restaurants and businesses that weren't in compliance to get settlements. Several businesses just closed instead of having to remodel to conform to new standards.

- I recently built a new office and building and I had to install handicap accessible restrooms despite the fact that I am a private business and no one should ever use my restroom except my employees.

Why can't free market handle these things instead of lawsuits? A business should be able to decline business to anyone they choose to. If a cake maker doesn't want to make a cake for a gay wedding then let the free market handle it, people will stop going there. If a private business doesn't want to hire blacks, whites, females because they would be a minority within the company culture and that in itself is a liability these days, why force them to hire them?
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:05 pm to
That isn't a free market issue.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98123 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:05 pm to
The free market exists only in theory. There has never been a truly free market anywhere, any time.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

A business should be able to decline business to anyone they choose to


yep
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12120 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:06 pm to
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That isn't a free market issue.


what isn't?
Posted by RaleighTiger
@ Booches, drinking a Stag
Member since Oct 2013
550 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:07 pm to
Would it be OK with you if a restaurant refused to serve people of color?
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80157 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:07 pm to
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mid 30's white male business owner


check your privilege whitey
Posted by ISmellMischief
Jodie's House
Member since Jan 2013
897 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:07 pm to
preach on brother
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:08 pm to
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We had a string of lawsuits around my area where a law firm came in and threatened law suits against several restaurants and businesses that weren't in compliance to get settlements


This happened in baldwin county last fall.

Lawyer paid some people to go around looking for specific regulations at pretty much every business and report back
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134839 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:08 pm to
Suing under the ADA guidelines has become an extremely lucrative racket. These lawyers will pay handicapped people to visit random retailers under the guise of being a patron to see if the business is ADA compliant. If not, they sue the business and give the cripple a cut of the winnings.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:09 pm to
I'm not sure "free market" applies to handicap accessibility, dude.
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 12:09 pm
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:09 pm to
Democrats, that's why.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24849 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:09 pm to
Do you even interstate commerce bro?
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12120 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:10 pm to
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Would it be OK with you if a restaurant refused to serve people of color?



yes. In this age of social media, the restaurant wouldn't last long but they shouldn't be forced to serve someone they don't want to. Let free market handle it. The same goes both ways though, I have been turned away from bars because they were black clubs that I was going to go in and check out. Whether they turned me away because I was just white or whether they wanted to keep anything from happening, I don't know and don't bitch about it.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

t I am a mid 30's white male business owner so I am everything this country stands against


Man that cross must be real heavy.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134839 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:10 pm to
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Would it be OK with you if a restaurant refused to serve people of color?

Being ADA non-compliant is not about refusing service to anyone.

Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26125 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:10 pm to
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I am a concrete guy that hires good people


How many employees could a concrete business need?
Posted by LigerFan
Member since Jan 2014
2711 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:11 pm to
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Would it be OK with you if a restaurant refused to serve people of color?


The answer is no, so you wouldn't go there anymore. That's what makes it a free market. If I don't like that establishments policies I can choose not to go there instead of getting the government to force them into abiding by certain policies.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134839 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:12 pm to
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Man that cross must be real heavy.


I hate it when people say this garbage.

His demographic is blamed for every single perceived problem in the Western world. Don't be so snide and ignorant.
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:13 pm to
Sorry OP my business only serves people who don't bitch and complain - you aren't welcome in it.
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