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What should a master carpenter be charging to put up a 15x30 cypress pergola

Posted on 7/3/17 at 8:54 am
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/3/17 at 8:54 am
Labor only.

Husband-wife team. Guy supposedly does some incredible work. Quoted my parents the following:

- $8000 for demo of current pergola, culling and sorting of old lumber (to make a display wall at my mom's company), and installation of new pergola

- $5000 for installation/materials of cypress tongue and groove roof

it's gonna end up running about $20k total with material. I just think that the labor cost is kinda high for a job that should take 4-5 days for 2 people. i realize he's working with a woman, but still. He estimated 9-14 working days, which I just can't wrap my mind around. It shouldn't even take a day to demo the original. My mom is out of town for the next 3 weeks and my dad is at the office all day, so they won't know if these "working days" are 2 hours or 12 hours lmao. I think my uncles and I built the first one in 5 days, though we were joe schmoes (not pros) and didn't put a roof on it.


I emailed him and asked for a detailed estimate summary so that we can better know what's going into those numbers and he sent this


quote:

Upon delivery of new lumber, construction will begin following the original design minus the 2”x2” slats plus an added roof as per our discussion. The roof pitch will be 2” on 16’ from the house back towards the yard. This is the minimum necessary for the proper drainage and will be hardly noticeable if at all. The six posts will be anchored to the ground or cemented in ground based on what we see when we remove the old posts, and what is best for this particular application. The bases will be treated to deter rotting. We will install two sets of projection beams spliced and anchored to the top of the posts as per current design. Anchoring is to include nails, brackets and contractor’s adhesives as needed. The 2”x10” joists will be placed perpendicular to the projection beams at 16” on center. The Cypress v-groove planks will be installed perpendicular to the joists. A layer of ¾” plywood decking (CDX) will go over the cypress planks. A salvage strip will be secured to all sides of decking followed by 15# felt and appropriate roofing materials. The roof will be coated using 100% silicone. Decorative trim pieces will be installed on bases of posts. All electrical work is to be performed by a licensed electrician and is the sole responsibility of home owner.




Is this in line with current carpentry rates? The guy is very respected, but like I said, it just seems a tad high to me.

What would be a reasonable charge if the above is not reasonable?


Pic of old one for reference (replacing bc wood is rotting)




This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 9:02 am
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 8:57 am to
The demo is high as giraffe dick
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
5289 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 8:57 am to
Base on past experience is say about tree-fiddy
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17406 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 8:57 am to
I think 8 grand for demo is crazy. I suspect the whole project maybe 10k-12k maybe but it's a stretch 15k.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 8:59 am to
You can't demo yourself?
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
14790 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 8:59 am to
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 10:39 pm
Posted by LSU_postman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
2798 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 8:59 am to
you getting ripped off man. NO way in HELL its 8 grand to demo that rotting old perg.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66377 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:00 am to
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I think 8 grand for demo is crazy


it's 8k for demo and install of new one. 5k for roof install (original pic doesnt have roof)

i feel like some buddies and I could have that thing demoed and dumped by lunch time, but im not gonna have the time for the next several weeks. im also not culling that shite
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 9:05 am
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17406 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:00 am to
Still too damn much.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:00 am to
To be clear, it reads like the $8k is for demo and installation of new pergola, while the $5k is for the roof and materials?
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5441 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:01 am to
Sounds like you need to get multiple quotes...it is really supply and demand, the most respected builders may be in high demand, so they can charge more.
Posted by 67Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
847 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:01 am to
You can get demo for around $2,000.00. Check out Home Depot. I'm very happy with my 26'x26' which includes stain. Cost around $13,000.00
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66377 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:02 am to
quote:

To be clear, it reads like the $8k is for demo and installation of new pergola, while the $5k is for the roof and materials?


correct. perg materials (without roof) should be around 6-7k
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 9:03 am
Posted by AllsGroovn
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2005
1946 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:02 am to
I just had roughly the same size cypress pergola installed. 16x31, tongue and groove roof w/ sheet metal panels on top.

Materials were under $6000, including the stain & metal. Had 6 8x8 beams.

Labor was $3000 to remove a 10x10 brick patio, and install the entire thing.

Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17406 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:03 am to
I think 13grand sounds much better.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:03 am to
I would pay $0 for a pergola.
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56156 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:06 am to
I did mine myself. Took a few weekends. Prolly spent $1000.


I mean it's not square and the boards warped in the weather and it looks bad, but it's done.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:07 am to
quote:



I mean it's not square and the boards warped in the weather and it looks bad, but it's done


So like every pergola ever? Pergolas are the above ground pools of patio coverings.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66377 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Materials were under $6000, including the stain & metal. Had 6 8x8 beams.

Labor was $3000 to remove a 10x10 brick patio, and install the entire thing.


wow. really?? who did it? how'd it come out?
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:08 am to
If dude has as good as reputation as you said it is he may just be bidding giraffe pussy to lower his work load. Hoping he doesn't get the job but if he does it will be too lucrative to pass up.
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