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What can be seen from an x-ray?

Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:45 pm
Two separate occasions, two different people...same walk in clinic.

Person 1- appeared to have torn achillies, or some kind of torn muscle in calf region. Went to said clinic and they x-ray it and say a pulled calf muscle.

Person 2- having bad stomach pains for two days. Goes to clinic...they x ray and say constipation and gas bubbles.

I was under the understanding that x rays only could view bones. Would take an MRI to see muscle/tendon issues, not an x ray.

Also x rays can tell you are full of shite and constapated with gas bubbles?
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37562 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:46 pm to
Get some Gas-X, baw. I felt like I had appendicitis for 3-4 days and it was trapped gas. Felt bad for my co-workers after I started taking Gas-X
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30542 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:47 pm to
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Also x rays can tell you are full of shite

I don't need an x ray to do that
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21034 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:47 pm to
It's not me lol.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21034 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:48 pm to
Horrible use of wordage when posting here I suppose
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29208 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:49 pm to
If soft tissues are dense enough you can see them.

You can see Achilles ruptures, and the disruption of the surrounding tissues. You can also see some content of the bowels.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29208 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:50 pm to
X-ray is not the preferred method to view either, and certainly shouldn't be used for diagnosis of an Achilles rupture. However, it is possible to see some pathology.
Posted by KarlMalonesFlipPhone
Member since Sep 2015
3848 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:51 pm to
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I was under the understanding that x rays only could view bones. Would take an MRI to see muscle/tendon issues, not an x ray.


It's not going to show a muscle or tendon tear but you could see tissue edema. Most likely the doctor saw the negative X-ray and used his contextual clues.

and it can absolutely show constipation or obstruction.
This post was edited on 4/9/17 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21034 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

X-ray is not the preferred method to view either, and certainly shouldn't be used for diagnosis of an Achilles rupture. However, it is possible to see some pathology




That's what I thought...didn't know that you would be able to make out anything at all.

I figured the leg issue was more of a..."Oh, it's not a broken bone so it's likely a pulled calf muscle."
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65594 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:07 pm to

Anomalies today can be seen with ultrasound as well as xray and MRI. But like any specialized activity, the outcome does depend on the tech and reader.
Posted by YourHuckleberry
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
148 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:18 pm to
X-rays are used to produce an image (radiograph). We can detect differences in density as different shades of gray in the image. Air, water, soft tissue, bone, etc. Any two opposing structures of different density can be seen.

The Achilles' tendon is adjacent to a fat pad and is easily seen (or not seen like with a tear).

Gas and stool are also easily seen throughout the colon and small bowel, because they are also surrounded by fat, sometimes more than others.

You can't see X-rays, just the images they can produce.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12078 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:35 pm to
X-ray is good for:
-Assessing injury
-Offering a low-cost, first-look exam




CT (fancy/expensive x-ray) is good for:
-Imaging bone, soft tissue and blood vessels at the same time
-Pinpointing issues with bony structures (injuries)
-Evaluating lung and chest issues
-Detecting cancers
-Imaging patients with metal (no magnet)



And with the aide of 3d modeling you can get a better overall picture...



MRI is good for:
-Imaging organs, soft tissue an internal structures
-Showing tissue difference between normal and abnormal
-Imaging without radiation
-Differences between normal and abnormal tissue is often clearer on an MRI than CT





In general x-rays are the most used for common diagnosis because they are cheap to purchase/operate, easy to operate, easy(ish) to read, and they're everywhere. The common x-ray, even chest x-rays, aren't a big enough hazard to your health to be concerned with their use.

CT and MRI equipment is very expensive to purchase, often slow to use (20 min to 1 hour or more), not portable in the least (sometimes the hospital/facility is built around the machine), is costly to operate/maintain, and requires specialized training.

CT is like an x-ray on steroids. You're blasted with such a high level that it is a concern. Having to have more than one or two per year becomes a problem. Sometimes even your profession is taken into consideration (pilots, nuclear plant workers, etc.).

MRI produces zero radiation. But many people have a problem with being stuck inside a small tube within a big arse machine that constantly makes loud fricking banging noises. So there's that. There are 2 main types: open and closed. Open is for the claustrophobic people, but closed produces a much much better image. And there are 2 main strengths manufactured today: 1.5 Tesla, and 3 Tesla. The 1.5T units you can't feel anything, the 3T units you can "feel" the change in the field around you. I've had both, and the 3T is a little trippy.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11412 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:54 pm to
When I get x rays on my right femur, I have to move my dick to the left side, so all him and the nurse can see is my right testicle rather than the whole fruit basket.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35472 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 6:44 pm to
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and certainly shouldn't be used for diagnosis of an Achilles rupture


I had a ruptured achilles. You don't need any machine to diagnose it. A simple 10 second test will do it. Put the knee down on a chair with the leg hanging behind. Squeeze the calf muscle. If the foot just dangles the achilles is gone. You can also feel the back of the ankle and notice that it is no longer there.

Worst injury to recover from in my life. 18 months until I could walk normally.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 6:48 pm to
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Hold That Tiger 10


They're gonna find the stuff you stuck in your butt.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 6:50 pm to
They're not gonna believe your lie that you fell on it by accident.
Posted by killercoconut
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2008
3736 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 7:00 pm to
If it's a full Achilles rupture then the only reason they would need imaging is for surgery. Even though X-ray is a poor choice for this situation.
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
1750 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 7:05 pm to
Air images very well on x Ray. That's why they do chest x rays all the time to evaluate lung fields. It's cheap and quick. If you have a lot of air in your bowels, i.e. Gas, it shows up on an abdomen / KUB radiograph.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
33997 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

Worst injury to recover from in my life. 18 months until I could walk normally.


Same for me. I wouldn't wish that experience on anyone.
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