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West Florida Republic

Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:35 am
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65042 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:35 am
I never hear much about the West Florida Republic.

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On September 23, 1810, after meetings beginning in June, rebels overcame the Spanish garrison at Baton Rouge and unfurled the flag of the new republic: a single white star on a blue field. This flag was made by Melissa Johnson, wife of Major Isaac Johnson, the commander of the West Florida Dragoons. The "Bonnie Blue Flag" that was flown 50 years later at the start of the American Civil War resembles it.[1]

The Constitution of West Florida was based largely on the United States Constitution, and divided the government into three branches: executive, judicial, and legislative. The legislature consisted of a Senate and House of Representatives. The Governor was chosen by the legislature. According to the constitution, the official name of the country was the "State of Florida". The first and only governor was Fulwar Skipwith, a former American diplomat who had helped negotiate the Louisiana Purchase. In his inaugural address, Skipwith mentioned the possibility of annexation to the United States


Can we fly the Bonnie Blue? Did it kill anybody?

Posted by Nughuffer
Member since Jun 2015
377 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:36 am to
Surely something about this is racist or bashing gays. We just haven't figured it out yet.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98453 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:36 am to
No.

Yes.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Can we fly the Bonnie Blue? Did it kill anybody?


quote:

On September 23, 1810, after meetings beginning in June, rebels overcame the Spanish garrison at Baton Rouge


Burn it, ban it.
Posted by peaster68
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2011
6115 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:42 am to
When the state of Mississippi seceded from the Union in January 1861, they adopted the Republic of West Florida Flag as many had ties to the West Florida rebellion. A flag bearing a single white star on a blue field was flown from the capitol dome.[5] Harry McCarthy helped popularize this flag as a symbol of the Confederacy by writing the words to the popular song "The Bonnie Blue Flag" early in 1861. Some seceding southern states incorporated the motif of a white star on a blue field into new state flags.[6]

The "Bonnie Blue Flag" was used as an unofficial flag during the early months of 1861. It was flying above the Confederate batteries that first opened fire on Fort Sumter, beginning the Civil War.
Posted by brodeo
Member since Feb 2013
1850 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:42 am to
The Bonnie Blue represented the U.S. illegally infiltrating and invading a territory of a peaceful sovereign neighbor and breaking that territory off only to be annexed. This was the first successful instance of this strategy, leading to it being repeated in the rest of Florida, Texas, California, ect. The Bonnie Blue is still flown in Baton Rouge alongside all of the other flags that once flew over the city. It is also prominently shown on signs for interstate 12, which has been dubbed the West Florida Republic Highway.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:43 am to
Love the Bonnie Blue. It's sort of an unofficial official flag of St. Francisville, as she was the Capitol of the Republic.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58543 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:49 am to
Illegally annexed by the U.S.A. Rightfully still an independent nation. God bless its capital, St. Francisville.
Posted by Fulwar
Member since Jun 2012
318 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:52 am to
The Bonnie Blue is not the same color as the flag of the Republic of West Florida, which was an azure blue much like the Somalia flag. Check out the ultimate source, Dr. Sam Hyde at Southeastern for more info W. FL info
Posted by PhilemonThomas
Member since Jan 2015
2942 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:54 am to
Step 1 to not firing up the social justice warriors. Stop calling it the Bonnie Blue. The flag that most likely flew over the West Florida Republic was much lighter than the Bonnie Blue and they did not call it the Bonnie Blue. They called it the "lone star flag of the West Florida Republic."

No one can prove it, but I suspect that the President of the West Florida Republic (Fulwar Skipwith) was a U.S. agent. He was born into the ruling elite of Virginia and Madison was a mentor to him. Before coming to Baton Rouge he was kicked out of France under suspicious circumstances.

As mentioned before the way the U.S. annexed West Florida and Texas is an example of amoebic imperialism.
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 8:56 am
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Can we fly the Bonnie Blue? Did it kill anybody?


I fly the bonnie blue. It's my favorite flag.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65042 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:00 am to
quote:

The Bonnie Blue is not the same color as the flag of the Republic of West Florida, which was an azure blue much like the Somalia flag.


You folks are really sticklers for the details.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:05 am to
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In 1774 the First Continental Congress sent letters inviting West Florida to send delegates, but this proposal was declined as the inhabitants were overwhelmingly Loyalist.


Yeesh. fricking Redcoats.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13943 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:22 am to
quote:

"lone star flag of the West Florida Republic."


And it was the original lone star, later used by Texas for its state flag.
Posted by brodeo
Member since Feb 2013
1850 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:24 am to
quote:

No one can prove it, but I suspect that the President of the West Florida Republic (Fulwar Skipwith) was a U.S. agent. He was born into the ruling elite of Virginia and Madison was a mentor to him. Before coming to Baton Rouge he was kicked out of France under suspicious circumstances.


He absolutely was. He was just a little more covert about it relative to Jackson just outright stealing the rest of Florida.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17665 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:37 am to
These little bits of forgotten/unknown history interest the hell out of me. Anybody ready the two books referenced in the wiki article?:

Bice, David A. (2004). The Original Lone Star Republic: Scoundrels, Statesmen & Schemers of the 1810 West Florida Rebellion. Clanton, AL: Heritage Publishing. ISBN 9781891647819.

Davis, William C. (2011). The Rogue Republic: How Would-Be Patriots Waged the Shortest Revolution in American History. Boston: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. ISBN 9780151009251
Posted by zelman
Bogan Walk
Member since Feb 2015
2400 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:37 am to
People did some badass shite back in them days.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65042 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 10:50 am to
quote:

People did some badass shite back in them days.


People still do badass shite. The media just reports on transsexuals because everybody loves a good freak show.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 11:25 am to
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amoebic imperialism.


US was quite good at that. We snuck our way into a whole bunch of territory in that manner.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 12:22 pm to
I recommend a book called "Pistols and Politics" Pretty good read on southeast La during those times and many of the cultural dividers back then apply now.



There was also a near race war in the 1800s along the state line. I'll try and find the article written in a New York paper. Went something like this

A general Store owner was called out of his store and gunned down by a group of blacks. There is claims that there was a cotton plantation owner that put them up to it because the store owner wasn't paying his bills but that cant be confirmed. His body was brought up to Mississippi. There was skirmishes along the state line from Pinckneyville to Jackson, La where groups from Mississippi would ride down into La. An army was formed on the La side of whites and they confronted a group coming out of Pickneyville and 5 blacks were killed. Their bodies were hung along the road as a warning to others. The Sheriff in Jackson was killed along with a few others in one incident. I'll try and find some links

If you're really interested you can look through archives online of the old Bayou Sara news paper.
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