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re: Was the allies winning WW 2 inevitable?
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:21 am to dawgfan24348
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:21 am to dawgfan24348
Stop digging the stupid hole, please.
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Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:23 am to athenslife101
War in the East, 1941 - 1945, the Russo-German War.
When Titans Clashed
The latest version of this book is from 2015, so it has the most recent research available. Probably the most accurate single book covering the War in the East.
War in the East
Comprehensive simulation of the War in the East covering military units down to battalion and battery level. The main unit of maneuver is the division, but, combat support battalions are attached to divisions by the player.
Gentlemen, World War Two in Europe was decided on the Eastern Front. This book and this game I recommend highly. The book is for everybody. The game is only for the most hard-core aficionado.
When Titans Clashed
The latest version of this book is from 2015, so it has the most recent research available. Probably the most accurate single book covering the War in the East.
War in the East
Comprehensive simulation of the War in the East covering military units down to battalion and battery level. The main unit of maneuver is the division, but, combat support battalions are attached to divisions by the player.
Gentlemen, World War Two in Europe was decided on the Eastern Front. This book and this game I recommend highly. The book is for everybody. The game is only for the most hard-core aficionado.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:23 am to dawgfan24348
It's fun to look back at History and see the mistakes made that had drastic changes.
Roosevelt had said under no circumstances would a freed indo-china be returned to France, yet Truman gave in. This second US snub later was a catalyst of the Vietnam war.
The partitioning of Austro Hungary and the Ottoman Empire led to a lot of Middle eastern and Balkan strife.
Roosevelt had said under no circumstances would a freed indo-china be returned to France, yet Truman gave in. This second US snub later was a catalyst of the Vietnam war.
The partitioning of Austro Hungary and the Ottoman Empire led to a lot of Middle eastern and Balkan strife.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:30 am to athenslife101
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Nazi problem was they tried to expand too fast and bit off more than they could chew
This guy gets it.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:38 am to athenslife101
The majority of Germans knew the european theater was over a few months after the Normandy invasion. There's an awesome book, Citizen Soldier, that dictates a lot of the German heavies journals. The allies ruled the air and when we finally learned how to communicate between land, air, and sea it was over. Of course we did come in on the tail end of fighting.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:40 am to Ed Osteen
Also, Germany remained on a peace time economic footing on the home front far longer than was prudent.
They basically didn't switch to a war footing until after the war was lost.
They basically didn't switch to a war footing until after the war was lost.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:43 am to Napoleon
Hey can you give me some good WW2 books?
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:51 am to goldennugget
Poster of the year huh...yikes
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:57 am to kingbob
Kingbob is correct.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 1:14 am to LSU Delts
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Nazi problem was they tried to expand too fast and bit off more than they could chew
This guy gets it.
That's a great point, The Blitzkrieg was swift and effective, but their supplies had trouble keeping up. Had Germany had the US' supply chain they would have been that much scarier. Germany still moved some material and troops by horse, even then.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 1:17 am to miketiger
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When Hitler divided Poland with the Russians that extra distance he had to invade kept him from making it to Moscow by the winter of 1941. He stalled 30 miles out of Moscow.
Because he moved an entire army to the Ukraine, duumbfrick.
If he didn't do that, Moscow was his and the Soviets were done.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 1:30 am to Ed Osteen
Do you prefer books told from perspectives or do you prefer more Timeline-Almanac style history books that present events?
Posted on 1/20/17 at 1:30 am to LSU Delts
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Nazi problem was they tried to expand too fast and bit off more than they could chew
This guy gets it.
Also, having a Corporal and his pig farmer murderous idiot calling the shots, didn't help either.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 2:28 am to kingbob
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Also, Germany remained on a peace time economic footing on the home front far longer than was prudent.
They basically didn't switch to a war footing until after the war was lost.
Great post. Albert Speer got the war machine rolling too late.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 2:30 am to Napoleon
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That's a great point, The Blitzkrieg was swift and effective, but their supplies had trouble keeping up. Had Germany had the US' supply chain they would have been that much scarier. Germany still moved some material and troops by horse, even then.
Himmler wanted to trade Jews for American trucks in '44. He promised to only use them on the Eastern Front. Ha.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 6:52 am to athenslife101
Had Hitler not done two things, we may not have won the ETO. First mistake was switching from bombing radar/military installations to attacking the cities in the BoB - the RAF was just about done for; second, invading Russia. I think a fight with Russia was inevitable, however it could/should have been done differently.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 6:57 am to Spaceman Spiff
Correct SS 
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:02 am to Ed Osteen
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Hey can you give me some good WW2 books?
There are a lot out there. There was a thread last week or so about this same thing. If you are looking for stories from individual perspectives, I can give you some great ones. Also, have a few really good ones about the different theaters.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:05 am to athenslife101
Churchill said on 12/7/41 that the Japanese would be ground into powder. They never had a chance of defeating us.
The Germans would have been impossible to dislodge from their conquests if Hitler had not been so bound and determined to attack the USSR. If he had been happy with his conquests through the summer of 1941, that would still be the political order over there. The war in Russia sapped about 70% of the German war effort. Add that to the Atlantic Wall and any amphibious landing would have been impossible.
That is unless we developed the atomic comb and just nuked the shite out of them.
The Germans would have been impossible to dislodge from their conquests if Hitler had not been so bound and determined to attack the USSR. If he had been happy with his conquests through the summer of 1941, that would still be the political order over there. The war in Russia sapped about 70% of the German war effort. Add that to the Atlantic Wall and any amphibious landing would have been impossible.
That is unless we developed the atomic comb and just nuked the shite out of them.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:11 am to goldennugget
Aren't you the guy who also said the holocaust was bogus or something like that?
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