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re: Was It Rape? Or Was It Regrettable Drunk Sex?

Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

Guys should just know better. Its a fine line, but you can't cross it. We've all been in that situation before. You have to just say no or just wait. Its not that complicated..



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Guys


Great argument.
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:46 pm to
At this point in the conversation I'd just like to remind everyone that

there are
about 300 million people in the US
about 400 million registered vehicles in the US
about 210 million licensed drivers in the US
about 300 million firearms using survey data, but likely about 400 million if you count those off the books / illegal / smuggled in etc

per year
48000 deaths from poisoning
190000 deaths from injuries
33800 deaths from motor vehicle accidents
33600 deaths from firearms
88000 deaths due to excessive alcohol intake
50000 deaths from the flu / pneumonia
and between 200000 and 400000 preventable deaths due to medical errors for those in hospitals (so this excludes errors from local clinics and so forth), which would make poor medical care the third leading cause of death in the US

the only logical conclusion here is that you should:
1. trust your doctors, especially after you've been admitted into the hospital and the top two leading causes of death have been excluded
2. turn in your guns, they're killing everyone
3. cut off your penis, it's raping everyone your guns have not killed


Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64391 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:46 pm to
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This isnt true at all. Rape allegations aren't just made flippantly. The girl has to make a sworn statement and be subjected to investigation before charges are filed. Police and prostecutors have to believe a crime has occurred. You know that.

Guys should just know better. Its a fine line, but you can't cross it. We've all been in that situation before. You have to just say no or just wait. Its not that complicated..


Not true you say? Tell that to this guy....

quote:

A preponderance of the evidence suggested that John Doe, a male student at Amherst College, raped his girlfriend’s roommate, Sandra Jones, according to the college’s sexual assault adjudication process. But text messages sent between the alleged victim and other Amherst students point toward the opposite conclusion: that Doe did nothing wrong


Student Expelled for Rape Has Evidence He Was the Victim. Amherst Refuses to Review It.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20869 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:47 pm to
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Great argument.



That's the real question here isn't it?

Are girls wise and strong enough to take responsibility for themselves? Or is it the guys job to run the show responsibly because females just aren't capable?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:49 pm to
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We gave him shite all night before he actually took her home because she wasn't even cute.


Well yeah, if she's cute, she's 1.34x more likely to accuse him of drunk-rape.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29408 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:49 pm to
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You clearly do since you responded. 

Again, a guy drunkenly rapes a girl, but it is your opinion that is a ok because he was drunk. 

pretty typical from you.


No you pompous shitbag, no one knows what happened. You being your typical retard self, jumped to the conclusion that he raped her. She could have been sucking his dick and begging him to plow her before she "came to". We don't know the specifics, and neither does she.

But you, with your moral superiority complex some how know that he raped her. Once again, WERE YOU THERE? If not, then STFU.

Innocent until proven guilty.
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 4:50 pm
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9564 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:51 pm to
Regret=Rape. Are you even PC?
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9758 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:51 pm to
Female on male sexual assault is pretty much nonexistent. You are arguing a point with no basis. You are proposing drunk women are fair fricks for every body at the party. Thats just disturbing logic. I've been there, with a drunk girl rubbing my junk telling me everything i wanted to hear. You just have to say no. Its hard, pun intended, but thats the way the law is now..
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81185 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:52 pm to
Ideally, the women making false rape allegations need to take responsibility and stop.

More realistically, if I was a dude I'd be cautious as hell.

These lying women are fricking with legit rape victims.. but they're also fricking with non-rape victims because now men are (understandably) less inclined to sleep with a woman who may legitimately be attracted to him and not a rape-liar.
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 4:54 pm
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97615 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:53 pm to
Man if you can't frick drunk girls anymore I'm sure glad I got married
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:53 pm to
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Are you even PC?


No, not really.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:53 pm to
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No you pompous shitbag, no one knows what happened


sweet I have always wanted to be considered pompous.

quote:

You being your typical retard self, jumped to the conclusion that he raped her. She could have been sucking his dick


So, sucking his dick and decided she didn't want to get plowed is okay. People change their minds in the middle of sex.

quote:

begging him to plow her before she "came to


So, only a shite head like you would frick a clearly drunk out of her mind woman. SO she sobers up in the middle of the act...and says stop. You stop. She gets to decide what happens to her body.

quote:

But you, with your moral superiority complex some how know that he raped her.


I'm only morally superior to you.

Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81185 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:55 pm to
If she comes to and says stop and you stop, can she still call rape on the sex up until that point? It seems like yes, and that's scary.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45721 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:56 pm to
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More realistically, if I was a dude I'd be cautious as hell.

No shite...
"All women are whores"
"Women are batshit crazy"
"You can't trust women"

"Holy shite, that chick is low hanging fruit. I'm gonna take her home and frick her and get all incensed when she acts crazy"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421511 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:59 pm to
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This isnt true at all. Rape allegations aren't just made flippantly.

the past few years (and major rape scandals) have proven this assertion to be woefully (and scarily) incorrect
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:59 pm to
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SO she sobers up in the middle of the act...and says stop. You stop. She gets to decide what happens to her body.


And that's what happened in this case, except she still claims she was raped.

Well, she's vague about the details, but the main points are she came to while he was fricking her, and she got out of there, naked, and passed out somewhere else. If she was really drunk enough to not remember half the night, is she going to fight off someone trying to legitimately rape her? Probably not.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421511 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 5:02 pm to
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Female on male sexual assault is pretty much nonexistent.




if we use the "if you're intoxicated you can't consent" standard this is just a complete lie

this is ignoring my own sexual assault by a chick (that isn't a big deal and is a "we were drunk" story)
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 5:03 pm to
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She wakes up and freaks out that we had drunk sex. I can get charged with rape??? HOLY shite. 


I'm not excusing this behavior from a woman, but in my experience these kind of things don't happen to good people.

I can't help but roll my eyes when people throw out that they're glad they're no longer in college. shite, we're you really that much of a scumbag that your college experience would have been different if the zero tolerance policies that we have now would have been in place then?

If you believe you would have been accused of rape if you went to college now, it says much more about you than it does about our current policies.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20869 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 5:05 pm to
That whole story pretty much proves that there's a population of women out there that are walking rape charges just waiting to be filed somewhere.

God help whoever they find.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421511 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 5:05 pm to
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shite, we're you really that much of a scumbag that your college experience would have been different if the zero tolerance policies that we have now would have been in place then?

since i drank alcohol and hooked up with chicks, yes

that applies to the chicks i hooked up with, too

quote:

If you believe you would have been accused of rape if you went to college now, it says much more about you than it does about our current policies.

no it doesn't. not at all. especially when you look at the major scandals that have emerged and been the face of this movement

mattress girl? guy did nothing wrong

occidental example? guy did nothing wrong

amherst example? guy did nothing wrong

UVA example? no guy even existed
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 5:07 pm
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