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re: Virginia State Police raid motorcycle club
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:37 pm to tigerinthebueche
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:37 pm to tigerinthebueche
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well you have been on somewhat of a tear lately with the Texas bikers and now this. I appreciate your libertarian views, but would you be as concerned if they were raiding homes in the hood?
AS a matter of fact, if these same exact things had been happening to "homes in the hood" or anywhere else for that matter, i would be just as concerned. People on here dismiss these blatant abuses of power because it's just "bikers". But it's like I've said over and over. If they can do this to them, then they can do it to anyone.
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Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:39 pm to aVatiger
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This is great considering that the VSP are practically mafia and do whatever the hell they want all over the Commonwealth.
From the sounds of this....
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But after floorboards were pulled off, and safes cracked open, Dabney said he approached troopers to ask what was happening.
“They all pointed AR-15s at me,” Dabney said. “I'm in shorts and nothing else. I pulled my shirt off and dropped my pants to show him that I had no weapons. I said, 'I want to see my search warrant.’”
Troopers declined to show the sealed warrant, and left the area around 6:30 p.m.
... I'd say you're right.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:39 pm to Darth_Vader
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You try so hard don't you?
About as hard as you do to find every little story about motorycle clubs.
This post was edited on 7/27/15 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:41 pm to Darth_Vader
agreed
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:45 pm to Darth_Vader
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If they can do this to them, then they can do it to anyone.
I guess so but we dont know this situation. The police had a warrant signed by a judge so yea. Maybe some guy loosely affiliated with the bikers got arrested and rolled on them hoping to get his charges dropped. Could have just made up shite about the bikers to get the police off his back.
What about this story is so troubling to you?
I dont know how accurate the comment section is but one guy is saying the police dont need to unseal the search warrant and let the people look at it.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:45 pm to Darth_Vader
The responses to this thread are surprising. I thought every cop was deemed a tPOS until proven otherwise on the OT. I guess we know where biker gangs fall on the OT's fake police outrage checklist.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:45 pm to Darth_Vader
One question, are those considered long short pants, or short long pants???
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:46 pm to SUB
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About as hard as you do to find every little story about motorycle clubs.
A friend of mine linked it on Facebook.
Which I will admit, a good portion (but not all) of my friends are bikers.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:47 pm to Darth_Vader
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Then where's the meth, and or the lab?
Why not arrest the cooks?
the article says nothing about meth or a meth house...
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few clues as to the goal or intent of the sweeping search.
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Sgt. Stephan M. Vick said State Police’s Richmond Field Office executed the sealed warrant, which was part of an ongoing criminal investigation.
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State Police said the armored vehicles are used in certain situations to protect troopers, but did not comment on the objective of the investigation.
Sounds to me like ti could be because of the picture of the Bald Eagle on this guys Facebook page
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:49 pm to Jones
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I guess so but we dont know this situation. The police had a warrant signed by a judge so yea. Maybe some guy loosely affiliated with the bikers got arrested and rolled on them hoping to get his charges dropped. Could have just made up shite about the bikers to get the police off his back.
What about this story is so troubling to you?
I spelled out earlier in this thread what's so troubling to me. Here's that post again...
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I don't know. Call me crazy but it seems a bit disturbing to me that the cops can drive up in armored cars, bust down doors, ransack personal property, take whatever they want, and when asked by the property owner for them to show him a search warrant they just point their AR-15's in his face.
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I dont know how accurate the comment section is but one guy is saying the police dont need to unseal the search warrant and let the people look at it.
I don't know the legality of that but how would you feel if you were in that guy's shoes?
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:51 pm to tgrbaitn08
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State Police said the armored vehicles are used in certain situations to protect troopers, but did not comment on the objective of the investigation.
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Sounds to me like ti could be because of the picture of the Bald Eagle on this guys Facebook page
Were the cops scared they'd sic the eagle on them? And if this was about the eagle, why seize three vests and a banner?
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:51 pm to Darth_Vader
So we have one side of the story so far. We don't have of the Va State Police statements on this incident at all. We have the word of one person and a few pictures. Let's get the whole story before we make a judgment call on this incident.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:54 pm to Darth_Vader
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Were the cops scared they'd sic the eagle on them? And if this was about the eagle, why seize three vests and a banner?
maybe they were worried about being ambushed given the fact they were about to raid a motorcycle club full of members that have criminal records.
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“I’ve done plenty of ugly and it’s time to do something good,” Anderson said. “I don’t need to do any more ugly out there. I need to do some good.”
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Speaking of his own history, Dabney admits it is not without its share of imperfections.
“My criminal history isn’t a perfect one. I have a history, every one of us has a history here,” he said. “But as far as our history, it’s our history. I don’t regret my history but I’m thankful I survived it, very thankful.”
This post was edited on 7/27/15 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:54 pm to tgrbaitn08
Hopewell is a trashy town. The guy is a fan of the Miami Dophins, reps the conferederate flag and is in a biker gang. Frick him. He really doesn't have any rights.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:57 pm to tgrbaitn08
Other than a captive Bald Eagle (not even sure, but I'll lean toward that being not legal) What's the problem?
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:59 pm to Darth_Vader
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I don't know the legality of that but how would you feel if you were in that guy's shoes?
my daily life or friends dont give the police any reason to even knock on my door, let alone go full military style on them.
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I don't know. Call me crazy but it seems a bit disturbing to me that the cops can drive up in armored cars, bust down doors, ransack personal property, take whatever they want, and when asked by the property owner for them to show him a search warrant they just point their AR-15's in his face.
Its called a raid, it isnt a knock on the door politely and ask them if theyre doing criminal things and be all merry about it.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:59 pm to tgrbaitn08
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maybe they were worried about being ambushed given the fact they were about to raid a motorcycle club full of members that have criminal records.
Fine, then why destroy their clubhouse and only take some vests and a banner? If they're really doing a criminal investigation those items, being perfectly legal, would be of no use in any criminal proceedings. I could see seizing things like drugs, illegal firearms, meth lab equipment, or other similar items. But why take those things? I know how they play their games and this had nothing to do with any legit criminal investigation. The raid, the ransacking, and taking the vests and banners was nothing more than the Va police sending this start-up MC a message.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:01 pm to tgrbaitn08
Which club would you be more inclined to trust.
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Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:01 pm to Darth_Vader
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the Va police sending this start-up MC a message.
you think they got the message?
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:02 pm to craig8sm
The MC buy a wide margin
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