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United Offers 1 Million Miles to Hackers to Find Flaws in Network

Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:45 pm
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:45 pm
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The more severe the flaw, the more hackers can earn from identifying them. Hackers who discover very serious security flaws could earn up to one million miles, while those who report less serious bugs in the airline’s mobile network will receive between 50,000 and 250,000 miles.


Forbes
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:47 pm to
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up to one million miles


I see this not going how United intended.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:48 pm to
If it's anything like the regular United points program, none of those miles will actually go towards an elite status.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68422 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:49 pm to
I don't think United realizes just how bad they fricked up doing this.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39545 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:50 pm to
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If it's anything like the regular United points program, none of those miles will actually go towards an elite status.



Don't know why you'd care when you have one million miles.

That's worth at least $10,000 in airfare first class, etc etc.

I'm not going to do the math on it
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115295 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:52 pm to
Jesus. United about to get fricking destroyed.

Can't wait to go to /b
Posted by DWaginHTown
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2006
9851 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:52 pm to
yeah, i see this having the potential for being very bad for their business.....reservations cancelled, flights delayed, etc.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
18944 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:52 pm to
So how would the worlds greatest anonymous hackers go about collecting those miles? I'm sure they just have to send in their name and address.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35302 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:53 pm to
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I don't think United realizes just how bad they fricked up doing this.



Bug bounty programs are pretty standard stuff at this point. The only thing that is unique is that they're paying out in miles instead of cash.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86429 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:54 pm to
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So how would the worlds greatest anonymous hackers go about collecting those miles? I'm sure they just have to send in their name and address


Interesting situation here. United is asking them to be hacked, they are wanting people to do this to help them improve their business. So let's say Joe Hacker does his thing and sends them a report or whatever. Woudl he get in any legal trouble for identifying himself? I mean, if he's as good as we're to assume in this hypothetical, if the police called him in for questioning or something he could deny doing anything like this before, and they would really have no proof of him doing it either.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:54 pm to
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If it's anything like the regular United points program, none of those miles will actually go towards an elite status.


There is a difference between status miles and redeemable miles
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 2:56 pm
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35302 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:59 pm to
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Interesting situation here. United is asking them to be hacked, they are wanting people to do this to help them improve their business. So let's say Joe Hacker does his thing and sends them a report or whatever. Woudl he get in any legal trouble for identifying himself? I mean, if he's as good as we're to assume in this hypothetical, if the police called him in for questioning or something he could deny doing anything like this before, and they would really have no proof of him doing it either.



Finding a vulnerability and even writing an exploit for it are not illegal and what United wants. Vulnerability disclosure happens all the time and is encourage by big companies usually with cash payouts (miles in this case). You only break the law when you actively exploit the vulnerability without the permission of the company.
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 3:03 pm
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82361 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 3:09 pm to
So if somebody hacks one of their planes and takes it over in midflight, does that count as serious? Would that person have immunity from prosecution?
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39545 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 3:22 pm to
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So if somebody hacks one of their planes and takes it over in midflight, does that count as serious? Would that person have immunity from prosecution?




There's a difference between finding out how to access a plane to take it over midflight and actually taking over the plane midflight.

You don't have to take over the plane to report the vulnerability
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24118 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:47 pm to
That would be a million point vulnerability in my book.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39545 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:49 pm to
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That would be a million point vulnerability in my book


Ya I'd think so!
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49486 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:50 pm to
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So how would the worlds greatest anonymous hackers go about collecting those miles? I'm sure they just have to send in their name and address.



Nah, the homepage of United will just include a big "UNITED OWES CuMsL1NgEr99 1M MILES LOL!" note right next to their Equal Opportunity Employer message.
Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
1483 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:12 pm to
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So if somebody hacks one of their planes and takes it over in midflight, does that count as serious? Would that person have immunity from prosecution?


While it's true that Boeing and Airbus aren't buildings airliners that are as reasonably secure as possible, it's also true that this is impossible. It cannot happen. There's no means for it to happen.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55940 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:33 pm to
I think it is a pretty damn good idea and am now pondering on something like this where I work....
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:56 pm to
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Finding a vulnerability and even writing an exploit for it are not illegal and what United wants. Vulnerability disclosure happens all the time and is encourage by big companies usually with cash payouts (miles in this case). You only break the law when you actively exploit the vulnerability without the permission of the company.
I knew very little about this topic so this was one of the more informative posts I've read in a while.
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