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Transmission Fluid and Filter change

Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:21 am
Posted by bull361
Prairiville
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:21 am
I've got a 2008 Chevy silverado with 174,000 miles on it. I was going to tackle a fluid and filter change in my transmission this weekend. What are some pros and cons in your experience? I've heard that your clutch could start slipping once changed if your fluid has never been changed before. I've had this truck for most of the miles on it and can make the assumption that the fluid has never been changed.
Posted by dawgfan1979
Red hills of Jawja
Member since Jul 2010
6431 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:26 am to
If you're just pulling the pan off, and changing the filter. it will be fine.

All of those horror stories are usually a result of those suction machines at the quick change places.

Just make sure you fill it back up with fluid. It usually takes 4 or 5 quarts.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:28 am to
If the fluid has been in there that long you probably shouldnt change it.

Does it shift ok?
Are you noticing a problem?
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28007 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:28 am to
Don't drain the torque convertor. Recover most of the fluid in a clean container and strain through a paint strainer. Put that back in the trans and top with new fluid. Change the filter.

quote:

I've heard that your clutch could start slipping once changed if your fluid has never been changed before.


Correct.


Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28007 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:30 am to
quote:

All of those horror stories are usually a result of those suction machines at the quick change places


Those places make it worse, but the horror stories were there before that and in my experience, they're true.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:33 am to
What happens is if the fluid has been in there a long time it will start to varnish. That varnish gets in all the seals throughout the transmission. New fluid is high in detergent and that detergent will wash the varnish out of those seals and damage them. If the seals cannot hold pressure it will not shift right.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:46 am to
I used to clean equipment that had various different fluids run in it throughout its life cycle. The stuff with ATF was always spotless
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:47 am to
ATF is some fricking incredible shite.

Mix with Kroil for ultra incredible penetrating lubricant
Posted by bull361
Prairiville
Member since Mar 2016
60 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:48 am to
every once in a while it will hesitate and shift hard into 2nd gear.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:50 am to
quote:

If you're just pulling the pan off, and changing the filter. it will be fine.

All of those horror stories are usually a result of those suction machines at the quick change places.

Just make sure you fill it back up with fluid. It usually takes 4 or 5 quarts.


nailed it. The converter holds like 9 quarts by itself. Dropping the pan,swapping the filter then refilling isn't going to do shite to hurt your transmission. Just make sure to go back with some good synthetic fluid.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:51 am to
quote:

every once in a while it will hesitate and shift hard into 2nd gear.
sounds like a sticking shift solenoid
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:54 am to
It most definitely is. I always hated opening a governor up and just having burnt oil caked in it. The ones with ATF were always in great shape and had the least amount of wear
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:56 am to
Check in this order

shift solenoid (scan for code)
if no code

Trouble could be from:

check ball in valve body plate
accumulator piston spring
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:59 am to
That's what happened to mine. Output shaft seal started leaking, added some fluid to fill it back up after it got low, wouldn't hold 3rd anymore and slipped it's arse off in first.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:01 am to
4L60E are notorious for losing 3rd
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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66763 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:03 am to
It's an 80e, but i was told the issue exists with them also. 3rd and reverse were basically gone.

It lived through 250k miles of abuse though, so I can't say anything bad about it. I took it apart myself. Other than the seals being hard it looked brand new in there.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15832 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:27 am to
quote:

every once in a while it will hesitate and shift hard into 2nd gear


My recommendation would be to just top it off with the appropriate fluid. Abnormal shifting may be due to low levels. Has there been any signs of trans oil leaking? Even a tiny bit adds up over time.

If you have a trans dip stick and fill reservoir, it's a quick deal. If, like my car, the only way to add trans fluid is to get under and add directly to the pan, you have some work to do. And it must be level to get it right.
Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
Member since Mar 2011
2946 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:31 am to
Don't do it unless you're prepared to replace transmission. If you're dead set on doing it , you're doing the right way. Replacing only the filter , by dropping the pan , is only going to replace about 20-30% of the fluid. So it won't be as drastic as flushing the system but , from my expirence , I wouldn't do it.
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