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re: TPSO seizes $800K in cash

Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:10 am to
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:10 am to
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Cops are out in full force in this thread.


Gotta protect the goose that lays the golden egg.

They would hate to lose that valuable resource.
Posted by YouAre8Up
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:13 am to
Who drives around with 800K in car?
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10433 posts
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:15 am to
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Are you a mule?




No, just do not like the idea of the police stealibg from folk. How motivated would they be if they could not benefit from their theft? What if it all had to go to the feds?


Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:22 am to
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Who drives around with 800K in car?


Does it matter? This story aside, carrying $800,000 isn't a crime.

Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:22 am to
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I'd bet my life they're drug dealers.


because he has money? give me a break. what a dangerous precedent that has been set.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:34 am to
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because he has money? give me a break. what a dangerous precedent that has been set.



Yea, it's just some money.

And it took yall long enough to get to the "must be cops" company line. I was beginning to worry.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:39 am to
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Yea, it's just some money.


come on man

its a really dangerous precedent

what amount of cash is not suspicious to you?

$100k? $50k? $25k? serious question
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:41 am to
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come on man

its a really dangerous precedent

what amount of cash is not suspicious to you?

$100k? $50k? $25k? serious question


The cash isn't the only factor for this one instance. I swear it's like yall don't read just so you can argue more. I'm not writing a policy here. I'm saying in this one instance I see no problem. But that won't stop nova or any of the rest of yall from extrapolating that to any possible future situation.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:43 am to
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The cash isn't the only factor for this one instance


the conflicting stories? we don't know what level the stories were conflicting

and the false "hit" is by no means a factor

so you are saying you are in favor of seizing people's money because they have conflicting stories? that is all it takes?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:45 am to
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the conflicting stories? we don't know what level the stories were conflicting

and the false "hit" is by no means a factor

so you are saying you are in favor of seizing people's money because they have conflicting stories? that is all it takes?


$800k, can't get a story straight, dogs smell that drugs were at the very least in the vehicle at some point, late at night, crossing state lines.

If these people are found to have legally obtained their money, I will retract everything I've said in here. But I won't hold my breath on that one, just like none of yall would if you're being honest and not arguing principle instead of one particular instance.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:48 am to
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But I won't hold my breath on that one, just like none of yall would if you're being honest and not arguing principle instead of one particular instance.


yeah...its probably drug money

but this isn't how the law is supposed to work

you just can't seize money based off a hunch
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:51 am to
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but this isn't how the law is supposed to work

you just can't seize money based off a hunch


Are they supposed to let them keep it when they charge them with the crime? I've been arrested before, and I didn't get to keep any of my possessions on my person. If they are found to be innocent of anything and don't get their money back, then I could see some outrage. Again, I won't be holding my breath.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:53 am to
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Are they supposed to let them keep it when they charge them with the crime?


you want them to seize all possessions because of a speeding ticket?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:54 am to
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you want them to seize all possessions because of a speeding ticket?


I'm operating under the impression they have been charged with something more relevant. Is that not the case?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:56 am to
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I'm operating under the impression they have been charged with something more relevant. Is that not the case?


I imagine they probably charged them with something drug related based on the false "hits", which is laughable
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:00 am to
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I imagine they probably charged them with something drug related based on the false "hits", which is laughable


Why is it laughable in this particular instance? I don't understand why a hit is "false" just because there weren't drugs there at that moment. If they had just recently moved a bunch of drugs in the vehicle, would the dog not smell that?

You yourself have said they are likely drug related, so why is it laughable someone you think is guilty is charged for something they most likely did?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:00 am to
I've mentioned this before, but I was pulled over on I-10 in Mississippi, same situation a few years ago.

Was living in Houston, driving home to Orange Beach to parents house. Texas tag, black Mercedes. Weekday, early afternoon, cruising along right at the speed limit. See a cop coming up behind me fast, obviously speeding but without his lights on. I move over from the left lane to the right to get out of the way.

Cop changes lanes right behind me and hits the lights. I pull over. Knew I wasn't speeding, asked why the stop. He said I didn't use my blinker when I changed lanes. I said, well I was just getting out of your way as fast as you came up on me.

He started asking questions, why Texas tag, where you going, why you going there, etc. I tell him but I'm annoyed at the horseshite interrogation for no reason. Then he asks if I have drugs or weapons in the car. I say no. He asks if he can search it. I'm pissed now and say this is ridiculous, but yeah if it will get me on my way, you've got 5 minutes to get it done.

Sum bitch goes back to his car, pulls out a dog. Dog jumps in my car and goes to town, then I open the trunk, he has me take stuff out of the trunk, dog sniffs. Then he signals the dog back into the car again for a second go round.

Nothing of course, so he takes the dog back to his car. I'm standing at the back of my car at this point watching him. He says something into his cb thing on his shoulder, then drives off. Nothing else, just leaves.

This has to be a common fishing expedition for them to steal from people I have about decided. Happened to me. If I had had a bunch of cash on me, they probably would have taken it.
Posted by monsterballads
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:02 am to
why do you hate the constitution? specifically the 4th amendment?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:02 am to
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I don't understand why a hit is "false" just because there weren't drugs there at that moment


really?

quote:

If they had just recently moved a bunch of drugs in the vehicle, would the dog not smell that?


possibly? can you prove it though?

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so why is it laughable someone you think is guilty is charged for something they most likely did?


because there is no evidence
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:04 am to
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really?


Yes, really. If there were drugs in the car an hour ago, I don't call that a false hit.

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possibly? can you prove it though?


No, but it coupled with $800k of unexplained cash is reasonable doubt for me.

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because there is no evidence


$800k of likely drug money begs to differ.
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