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re: TPSO seizes $800K in cash

Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:59 pm to
Easily upset. Too easy really.

You love criminals. I get it.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:59 pm to
Back in 2007 or 08 I read an article claiming 75% of tested cash money has traces of drug residue. Perhaps the K9 was right.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:00 pm to
Disagree with the law all you want. This appears to be an acceptable application in my opinion. Cry your eyes out for all I care. Money obtained through illegal means is not stolen when it is confiscated. This is a horrible example to try to make a case against it.
Posted by AintBigButItsPretty
Member since Mar 2011
942 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:01 pm to
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But no drugs.

STUPID DOG!!

Cocaine is one of the most prevalent substances on money. $800,000 worth of 100's should have plenty of Cocaine on it. Also, large amounts of drugs were probably transported for a good amount of time in the vehicle previously.

Civil forfeiture and criminal charges are completely different and separate apparatuses. The police don't have to reveal the specific evidence they have to prove the standard (clear and convincing evidence) to the media or you. That's for the defense to dig up during discovery. Make them work for it. With most money seizures, several reports are run such as FinCEN and wage reports. More information may have come from the debriefs than was written as well. Kudos to TPSO for taking the dealer's money. Even if they have to give it back, it's a great intel pull and inconveniences the dealer/transporter/cartel.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
27546 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

Disagree with the law all you want. This appears to be an acceptable application in my opinion. Cry your eyes out for all I care. Money obtained through illegal means is not stolen when it is confiscated. This is a horrible example to try to make a case against it.


You're just completely assuming though. I'm not saying it wasn't for drugs, you are just immediately discrediting the other guy. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139762 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:02 pm to
My man. I hate criminals too.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:03 pm to
I'm using what information I have to make an educated guess. I'd bet none of y'all honestly think these people weren't dealing. Yall are just arguing to ague.
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:04 pm to
Civil forfeiture is what keeps the war on drugs going
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:05 pm to
You're an idiot. His "Passport 8500" didn't go off because the cop was using his radar correctly. The only way those radar detectors work is if a cop leaves his antenna transmitting all the time. If they turn it on and off like they should between cars, the radar detector won't pick up the signal until it's too late. When I found this out, I pretty much gave up on using mine.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
27546 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:06 pm to
You're comprehension skills are seriously lacking dude. I gave you a person example of why I'm saying to not judge a book by its cover. You are just hellbent on him being a criminal if you want my honest opinion.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:07 pm to
You're lacking just as much. Your example is pretty much nothing like this instance.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:08 pm to
I love these threads. I love anything that pisses off you miserable fricks.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:10 pm to
Well that and the drugs.
Posted by AintBigButItsPretty
Member since Mar 2011
942 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:15 pm to
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Civil forfeiture is what keeps the war on drugs going

And...?

People are against the "war on drugs" due to the enforcement of Marijuana laws. I agree the potheads are basically harmless and Marijuana should be legal but the "war on drugs" suppresses the overt use of the hard drugs. And before you laugh, live next to a meth or mojo freak if you think drugs only harm the person taking them. The fear of getting pinched keeps the thievery, overt drug use and the effects of that use, widespread drug rip offs in public places, etc. Yes, there are perks to civil forfeiture but most of the enforcement on the drugs themselves and not the money or assets so I disagree with your statement.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:16 pm to
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You should start a go fund me for these criminals.


Just won the internet.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:17 pm to
Cops are out in full force in this thread.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
27546 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:17 pm to
Large sum of cash.
Posted by AintBigButItsPretty
Member since Mar 2011
942 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:25 pm to
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You're comprehension skills are seriously lacking dude. I gave you a person example of why I'm saying to not judge a book by its cover. You are just hellbent on him being a criminal if you want my honest opinion.

Reasonableness is a standard in our courts. Just based off what was reported in the case you can project a few things.

We are no longer a cash society and it has been well established that dealers transport large amounts of cash. It is reasonable to assume that most law abiding citizens would not be concealing cash (assuming the cash was in a hidden compartment) if the money was legal. While on the surface, having large amounts of money is not illegal. Concealing large sums in a vehicle is a component of money laundering. You add things like this with interviews, money traces, bank reports, and wage reports to build a case. The occupants' criminal history is another factor that comes into play. If the guy has never worked a legit job in his life, hasn't claim a dime of legit income to the IRS, is concealing/transporting a large sum, and/or has attempted to avoid a United States financial reporting form, it would be a pretty strong application for civil forfeiture and potentially a decent money laundering case.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 11:27 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:30 pm to
All your posts seem to be cop and drug related

Are you a cop?
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:37 pm to
Are you a mule?

This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 11:47 pm
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