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re: Today's Advocate headline, "I-10 widening garners little enthusiasm"
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:58 am to CoachChappy
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:58 am to CoachChappy
Just curious, what would be the price of another bridge? Is it astronomical compared to this $350 million?
We need pressure release valves and there are none. This would just increase bridge pressure IMO.
We need pressure release valves and there are none. This would just increase bridge pressure IMO.
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:00 am to doubleb
Same old story: by the time they finish widening it, it will need to be widened again. An outer loop is the only answer and it's the reason Houston, Atlanta and Raleigh all have one or more.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:01 am to PhilemonThomas
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The problem is that stuff has to go through Ascension Parish and Livingston Parish.
DING DING DING
fricking NIMBY's, man.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:01 am to TheCaterpillar
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Just curious, what would be the price of another bridge? Is it astronomical compared to this $350 million?
How much did the mostly useless one that was recently built south of St. Francisville cost?
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:01 am to Rickety Cricket
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Won't matter, people will have a minor fender bender and leave their cars in the traffic lane until cops arrive.
And everyone will rubber neck and make traffic artificially backed up.
Most.Aggravating.Thing.Ever.
I had an idea for an invention for cops and those maintenance vehicles for broken down cars on the interstate. A pop up screen that blocks the view of any wreck from the motorists on the road. Less people would slow down to stare at a giant orange screen on the side of the road.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:01 am to CoachChappy
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They are supposed to be building one down in White Castle. That was the plan when they put up the one at St. Francisville area.
Link?
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:03 am to CoachChappy
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They are supposed to be building one down in White Castle. That was the plan when they put up the one at St. Francisville area.
That might be the talk but it isnt finalized yet...
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:06 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:A lot. A whole hell of a lot. But things cost money. Hundreds of millions of dollars. Maybe $500MM or more.
Just curious, what would be the price of another bridge? Is it astronomical compared to this $350 million?
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:06 am to PhilemonThomas
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Street Breads, Magpie, Frankie Dog, Shitz and Giggles, Crispy Catch, City Pork, and several women's boutiques
Not one of these is a new development.
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smoothie joint, Jimmy Johns, 3 or 4 apartments, Sake
This is the perkins road hardware footprint.
If you want to say new businesses then yea. Ok. Why are we talking about this?
The 350 mill figure is laughable and it's another bandaid. If they are building another bridge/loop we are getting somewhere.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 10:07 am
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:07 am to TheCaterpillar
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Just curious, what would be the price of another bridge? Is it astronomical compared to this $350 million?
A bridge, new roadways to tie in to existing infrastructure, ROW acquisition... I would guess a couple billion at least.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 10:10 am
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:09 am to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:11 am to doubleb
Just spend like $100 billion to double-deck I-10 across the bridge all the way to Hammond with a 300 ft high upper deck with zero exits into the city so that anyone that wants to just drive through BR, can. Kinda like Austin, but much, much higher. I don't even want to know I'm driving over BR. We'll call it the BR basin bridge.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 10:12 am
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:12 am to LSU Wayne
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$409 Million
Not a shot. That's yesterday's money and doesn't account for the fact that a bridge to the south would have to be higher off the river.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:12 am to dagrippa
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The 350 mill figure is laughable and it's another bandaid. If they are building another bridge/loop we are getting somewhere
A new bridge plus a loop are also needed, but the I-10 between the split and the existing bridge does too.
It's 1960s engineering/construction with too few lanes.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:13 am to waiting4saturday
I was just responding to the question asking what the St. Francisville bridge cost.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:13 am to PhiTiger1764
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A bridge, new roadways to tie in to existing infrastructure, ROW acquisition... I would guess a couple billion at least.
Yea the bridge across the river is at least half a billion and then the bridge from perkins up to the same bridge is possibly more. 1-2 billion.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:14 am to LSU Wayne
And that bridge doesn't permit large shipping to pass underneath it does it.
It's how many lanes, four? Six?
It's how many lanes, four? Six?
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:14 am to LSU Wayne
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$409 Million
OK so let's say they can do it south of br for half a billion. I'd say that's a no brainer rather than spending 350 million fricking up the overpass. This would be a long-term solution with little to no traffic interference. You gotta remember that if they widen the interstate there will be lane closures for at least a year on both i10 and Perkins. frick that.
Also, I like duvics.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:15 am to PhiTiger1764
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No... the interstate, operating at level of service F, which dwindles down to one lane trying to accommodate an AADT of over 100k, is definitely the problem.
No, it's when drivers brake and slow down to 10mph for a fender bender ON THE SHOULDER, thousands of drivers behind them are forced to slow down as well. The back-up is a chain reaction and before you know it, the back-up extends the entire length of I-10 thru Baton Rouge.
Or perhaps the problem is when there's an accident on the opposite side of the interstate, people on the open side decide they want to try to see blood and gore so they slow down to a crawl (sometimes stop). This is uncalled for and pointless. fricking drive.
Or maybe the problem lies in the fact that Louisiana drivers don't understand that the left lane is for passing only - not idle driving - even if it's 7 or 8 mph over the speed limit.
A more likely culprit is cell phones. Drive the interstate today and I challenge you to find more than 10 drivers who are NOT on their phone (either talking or texting or facebooking - or (gasp) OT'ing). GET OFF THE frickING PHONE AND DRIVE!
Another problem on the interstate is people who don't even drive the speed limit. Don't get on the interstate if you don't intend to drive 70mph. Going slower than the speed limit slows drivers down for miles and only irritates them to the point of driving recklessly after they're out of the back-up to try to make up for the time they lost. This causes an accident that will back up the opposite side of the interstate.
The problem is not the concrete and blacktop that the interstate is made of. The problem is drivers.
Blaming the interstate for the traffic problems is like blaming guns for shootings.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 10:21 am
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:19 am to LucasP
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$409 Million
OK so let's say they can do it south of br for half a billion.
I think it would likely be a good bit more than that. The logistics to account for ocean going vessels (which travel up to the refineries in BR) really significantly add to the costs of bridges to the south.
Still doesn't make the location of that St. Francisville bridge make much sense or make it a financial good idea.
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