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The latest money grab from New Orleans: Balconies, stoops could face 'encroachment' taxes

Posted on 3/17/17 at 5:15 pm
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 3/17/17 at 5:15 pm
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New Orleans City Council will hold a public hearing Friday, March 17 to discuss residents' "air rights."

The city says it has taken the position that all "encroachments," including balconies, stoops and eaves, belong to the city and therefore must be leased from the city, according to the Vieux Carre Property Owners, Residents and Associates (VCPORA).

This includes buildings that have been around for hundreds of years, the VCPORA says.

The idea is that property owners will pay additional fees for parts of their properties that extend into the city, many of which are unable to be removed due to constructions regulations in designated historic districts.

VCPORA says these leases could require property owners to pay hundreds of thousands annually as well as give the city the right to raise the rates by 10% every five years.

Councilmember-at-Large, Stacy Head said she thinks this is a bad policy.

"These are, again, properties that are presumably paying taxes already," Head said. "Many of them are in historic areas - the French Quarter or in other historic districts - where they can't even remove the balconies if they wanted to avoid paying those fairly hefty fees, some of them are in the five, eight thousand dollar range."

These leases would not be limited to the French Quarter and Marigny. Areas like the Treme, CBD, Warehouse and Lower Garden Districts would also be subject to these fines.


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Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 5:16 pm to
BR > NO
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18893 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 5:16 pm to
Bill the city for keeping rain off the sidewalk.

Profit?


ETA - This link better be to an Onion article. No way they are actually this damn stupid.
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57444 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 5:17 pm to
So fricking ridiculous

Only Nola would get into a debate on taxing cotitzens over the "air rights"
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 5:18 pm
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 5:19 pm to
said years ago that we would never see a balcony tax in our lifetime because even the most corrupt politician would never have to stones to propose such an idea
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34840 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 5:23 pm to
Louisiana
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37133 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 5:24 pm to
Tell the city to make sure to send someone to do quarterly painting, cleanup, and other repairs to your balcony if they 'belong' to them.

Oh and make sure to sue the city when you get hurt on one.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18893 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

Tell the city to make sure to send someone to do quarterly painting, cleanup, and other repairs to your balcony if they 'belong' to them.

Oh and make sure to sue the city when you get hurt on one.


Very valid points. And what do they do when you don't pay the "rent" for your balcony? Tell you not to use it? What about tenants who elect to not "lease" their balcony? So much fail in this whole thing.

So how many tax dollars will be spent on defending this because the lawsuits will be in the hundreds?
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 5:59 pm
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 6:01 pm to
Send the city a bill for providing a place in the structure of your building to anchor their balcony.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 6:02 pm to
This city and its politicians are so fricking retarded
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 6:06 pm to
NOLA.com "Air Rights"

This article has a little more detail. I'll be following this story!

Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 6:07 pm to
A fee for a thoroughfare to access the city's balcony y is in order too.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 6:09 pm to
That's one of the most absurd things I've ever read
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30542 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 6:10 pm to
Citizens and businesses taxes thousands of dollars every year. Businesses pass on those taxes to their customers in price increases. French quarter becomes too expensive for average people. Tourism decreases. NOLA economy goes down. Tax revenue is reduced. NOLA government has to find ways to make more tax money. Charges its citizens and businesses more. Repeat
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6249 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 6:12 pm to
If Landrieu doesn't shut this conversation down fast, he will prove even further he's the biggest douche to ever run New Orleans.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11139 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 6:21 pm to
What are the odds most of these balconies, entrances, etc. don't actually extend onto city property or city "air"? At worst they probably extend onto their own private property with an easement for a public road or sidewalk.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 6:25 pm to
Do they say what these taxes will be used for? A specific purpose or just another slush fund for corruption?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65617 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

Do they say what these taxes will be used for? A specific purpose or just another slush fund for corruption?


Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3251 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 6:29 pm to
This is right up there with tithing in absurdity
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49488 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

Businesses pass on those taxes to their customers in price increases.


One of the most frustrating things about taxes/regulations is that people don't get this. A lot of people that will support it will think "I don't have a balcony" or "I rent a place with a balcony, so I won't be paying the tax." It both raises the prices of the many FQ places that do have a balcony, AND it increases the demand for places that don't have one (thus raising those prices).

I have a relative that's a huge NOLA preservationist. That's fine, but she's also a liberal that complains about the cost of living in NOLA. Preservation is a significant cause for the high cost of property in the city.
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