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Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murder
Posted by East Coast Band on 5/18/17 at 9:03 pm03
LINK w/ news video imbedded
LAS VEGAS — The surveillance video shows a man walking back and forth at the intersection of Ogden and City Parkway in downtown Las Vegas.
The video is from Feb. 23.
Police say the man in the video is Shane Schindler and, after a few minutes, he makes an unexpected move.
The video shows Schindler standing over the mannequin decoy they placed in a sleeping bad.
A minute later, he reaches into a plastic bag and pulls out a mini-sledgehammer.
He uses both arms to lift the hammer over his head and strikes the mannequin.
Seconds later, Schindler walks away and officers with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department move in with guns drawn.
LVMPD Officer Larry Hadfield called the sting an innovative way to try and catch a suspected killer.
“You have a person who was randomly killing people and because of some out of the box thinking you had someone who was dangerous to anyone in this community, get put in jail, right where he belongs,” said Officer Larry Hadfield.
despite what the video shows he says he never used it to hit the mannequin.
Why do you ask is a man charged with attempted murder for this? The whole point of the sting operation was to catch who killed two previous homeless people in the same area as this sting operation that was setup by the police.
Even though it seemed to have caught who they were looking for, I could see plenty of wriggle room for the defense to get out of this one, even though Shane Schindler seems like a worthless POS.
LAS VEGAS — The surveillance video shows a man walking back and forth at the intersection of Ogden and City Parkway in downtown Las Vegas.
The video is from Feb. 23.
Police say the man in the video is Shane Schindler and, after a few minutes, he makes an unexpected move.
The video shows Schindler standing over the mannequin decoy they placed in a sleeping bad.
A minute later, he reaches into a plastic bag and pulls out a mini-sledgehammer.
He uses both arms to lift the hammer over his head and strikes the mannequin.
Seconds later, Schindler walks away and officers with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department move in with guns drawn.
LVMPD Officer Larry Hadfield called the sting an innovative way to try and catch a suspected killer.
“You have a person who was randomly killing people and because of some out of the box thinking you had someone who was dangerous to anyone in this community, get put in jail, right where he belongs,” said Officer Larry Hadfield.
despite what the video shows he says he never used it to hit the mannequin.
Why do you ask is a man charged with attempted murder for this? The whole point of the sting operation was to catch who killed two previous homeless people in the same area as this sting operation that was setup by the police.
Even though it seemed to have caught who they were looking for, I could see plenty of wriggle room for the defense to get out of this one, even though Shane Schindler seems like a worthless POS.
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by northshorebamaman on 5/18/17 at 9:05 pm to East Coast Band
Lock him up.
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by magildachunks on 5/18/17 at 9:05 pm to East Coast Band
Odds he voted for Trump?
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by bird35 on 5/18/17 at 9:05 pm to East Coast Band
This is nightmare worthy.
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by CBandits82 on 5/18/17 at 9:12 pm to East Coast Band
Kind of like Minority Report.
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by wildtigercat93 on 5/18/17 at 9:16 pm to CBandits82
quote:
Kind of like Minority Report.
Except he already killed people
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by papasmurf1269 on 5/18/17 at 9:17 pm to East Coast Band
The police gave him enough rope to hang himself with. It appears he is guilty of striking what he thought was a person with a hammer
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by LesMiles BFF on 5/18/17 at 9:19 pm to CBandits82
quote:
Kind of like Minority Report
Kind of, but not really close at all. Like...at all.
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by SCLibertarian on 5/18/17 at 9:20 pm to East Coast Band
I don't see how you can sustain this charge without there being a human victim. Attempted murder is an inchoate offense of murder, which is defined as the "unlawful killing of another with malice afterthought." A mannequin is not another and cannot be killed, as it isn't alive in the first place.
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by East Coast Band on 5/18/17 at 9:22 pm to SCLibertarian
I think they got him on this "attempted murder" charge just to detain him, with hopes of finding info on him that can tie him to the murders of the homeless people
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re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by LesMiles BFF on 5/18/17 at 9:24 pm to SCLibertarian
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"Inchoate offense" has been defined as: "Conduct deemed criminal without actual harm being done, provided that the harm that would have occurred is one the law tries to prevent
Maybe they can argue the harm he tried to commit would have resulted in the death of another human being even though there was no human being.
They'd have to prove that he thought the mannequin was a real person and case closed.
This post was edited on 5/18 at 9:24 pm
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by LesMiles BFF on 5/18/17 at 9:24 pm to East Coast Band
quote:
I think they got him on this "attempted murder" charge just to detain him, with hopes of finding info on him that can tie him to the murders of the homeless people
This too
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by SCLibertarian on 5/18/17 at 9:27 pm to East Coast Band
I haven't followed this case but you are correct. If they get him for even one of the two murders, the attempted murder charge is irrelevant.
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by PrimeTime Money on 5/18/17 at 9:29 pm to East Coast Band
There is no way they can charge him with attempted murder even if he really did think that was a real person.
Because it wasn't a real person even if he thought it was.
Otherwise it is a "thought crime" instead of an actual crime.
Having said that, this sting was successful in figuring out the guy who is most likely responsible for the other murders, and now they know who to investigate in regards to the previous murders.
Because it wasn't a real person even if he thought it was.
Otherwise it is a "thought crime" instead of an actual crime.
Having said that, this sting was successful in figuring out the guy who is most likely responsible for the other murders, and now they know who to investigate in regards to the previous murders.
This post was edited on 5/18 at 9:31 pm
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by Jizzy08 on 5/18/17 at 9:52 pm to East Coast Band
Ahhh, the old mannequin-in-a-sleeping bag to catch homeless person serial killer trick. Oldest trick in the book.
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by LesMiles BFF on 5/18/17 at 9:56 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
There is no way they can charge him with attempted murder even if he really did think that was a real person.
Because it wasn't a real person even if he thought it was.
Otherwise it is a "thought crime" instead of an actual crime.
They prosecute child predators that think they are meeting up with underage teens when it's just a cop pretending to be a kid in a chat room.
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by MaroonWhite on 5/18/17 at 10:08 pm to East Coast Band
If beating a mannequin with a hammer is a crime, then he should be charged.
If not, then no crime was committed.
If not, then no crime was committed.
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by East Coast Band on 5/18/17 at 10:23 pm to MaroonWhite
quote:
If beating a mannequin with a hammer is a crime, then he should be charged.
If not, then no crime was committed.
I doubt it is a crime. However, they do have him on record saying he did not hit the mannequin with a hammer, even though the video clearly shows him doing such.
Plants seeds in jurors minds.
good first step for cops.
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by CBandits82 on 5/18/17 at 10:26 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:
Except he already killed people
Yea, I missed this part .
re: Sting operation: man bashes 'sleeping' manequin w/ hammer, now charged w/ attempted murderPosted by RedRifle on 5/18/17 at 10:26 pm to East Coast Band
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