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SpaceX to fly passengers on trip around moon in 2018
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:35 pm
Hell yeah.
Ars Technica
Ars Technica
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SpaceX announced Monday that it plans to send two private individuals around the Moon by the end of 2018, a highly ambitious flight that would mark the first human return to deep space in nearly 50 years. During a teleconference with reporters, SpaceX founder Elon Musk said the two people would fly an approximately week-long mission in a “long loop” around the Moon, to about 400,000 miles from Earth, before returning home.
Musk said the company would launch its Dragon 2 spacecraft on top of a Falcon Heavy rocket and that the two passengers would be flying solo, without the assistance of professional astronauts. Dragon 2, he said, is designed as an autonomous vehicle. The paying customers would not be blind to the risks, he added. "I think they are entering this with their eyes open, knowing there is some risk here," Musk said. "They’re not naive. We’re going to do everything we can do to minimize our risk, but the risk is not zero."
Competition with NASA
The announcement comes shortly after NASA has revealed that it is considering launching a crew of two astronauts on the maiden flight of its Space Launch System rocket in 2019. This flight, Exploration Mission-1, would have a similar profile in that it would send the Orion spacecraft out past the Moon, in a free-return trajectory, before returning to Earth after about a week.
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Although SpaceX does considerable business with NASA through the agency's commercial crew and cargo vehicles, there is nonetheless a competition between the private company and the government agency when it comes to deep space exploration. NASA has maintained that while it has opened up low-Earth orbit to private companies, it should take the lead on the exploration of deep space. However the private space industry has criticized the agency for spending lavishly on the development of the SLS rocket and Orion spacecraft, which account for more than $3 billion annually in NASA's budget.
During the call with reporters, Musk sought to distance his company from any competition with NASA. "I think we’re generally encouraging of anything that advances the course of space exploration," Musk said. "I think an SLS/Orion mission would be exciting as well. And I don’t know what their timetable is. But I’m not sure if we will be before or after, but I don’t think that’s the important thing. I think what matters is really the advancement of space exploration."
Indeed, Musk left the door open for NASA to undertake the mission with the Falcon Heavy and Dragon 2 as a customer. "If NASA decides they want to do the first lunar orbit mission, obviously we would give them priority," Musk said.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:35 pm to NYNolaguy1
How you know what time it will be?
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:35 pm to NYNolaguy1
That's amazing that they already have a time picked out!!!
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:37 pm to Tortious
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How you know what time it will be?
That's what I get for not checking the damn autocorrect.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:39 pm to NYNolaguy1
Is anyone else starting to think that Elon Musk is a stranded alien who is just building shite so he can go home without drawing the wrong kind of attention to himself?
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:43 pm to theunknownknight
No human has ever traveled further, soooooo ya
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:44 pm to NYNolaguy1
At first I was like shite yeah, sign me up! Then I saw
Yeah... frick that
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passengers would be flying solo, without the assistance of professional astronauts.
Yeah... frick that
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:49 pm to TigerstuckinMS
The dude is brilliant. He's a dreamer, but he actually makes the shite happen.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:50 pm to beerJeep
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Yeah... frick that
That's what I thought...if it's just me and another person, I want to be damn sure that guy isn't going to lose his damn mind.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:52 pm to NYNolaguy1
I've seen how many of SpaceXs rockets have blown up. So I'll pass on the first 10+ years until they work the bugs out of the system.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:52 pm to NYNolaguy1
As long as you get off the launching pad with SpaceX, you will be good to go.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:55 pm to beerJeep
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passengers would be flying solo, without the assistance of professional astronauts.
Yeah... frick that
shite, back during the infancy of the space program, I'm pretty sure that NASA planned for pretty much everything to be autonomous using the technology they had in the 50's with the astronauts just along for the ride until the astronauts damn near rioted once they found out that they wouldn't have some control of the spacecraft.
We have self-driving cars today that can navigate a busy city with no human input. Navigating in space is much easier. The things you have to miss are REALLY big, your desired path is very easy to compute (relatively speaking), and there's LOTS of time for a number of slight adjustments along the way. All your computer needs to do is make sure you don't hit one of the really big things until you intend to hit one. You don't need an astronaut for navigation and control and if your rocket doesn't light or blows up, there's not much an astronaut can do that a passenger guided by the ground can't. Accidents in space are 1)either very violent, quick, and lethal 2)slow moving and recoverable or 3)slow moving and lethal no matter what.
If the spacecraft survives the initial problem, the systems engineers on the ground could probably devise a plan and guide non-professionals through it. Apollo 13 survived the initial incident and was slowly becoming lethal to the astronauts but the ground was able to devise a series of methods that they talked the astronauts through that allowed them to survive. Any spacecraft that will take control input from the ground or go autonomous to save itself if contact with the ground were lost just wouldn't need any astronauts to manually flip switches to change the configuration of the spacecraft like Apollo 13 required at the outset of the disaster. The later stuff the astronauts did like building the oxygen canister contraption doesn't require an intimate knowledge of the spacecraft and its systems. In fact, that shite was made up mid-mission, so the astronauts had no prior knowledge of how to build the thing and just had to be talked through it by the ground.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:55 pm to LSUAlum2001
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As long as you get off the launching pad with SpaceX, you will be good to go.
and no tesla has crashed on auto pilot?
yeah ok
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:56 pm to NYNolaguy1
How much to fly to the moon?
Has to be at least couple million right?
Has to be at least couple million right?
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:58 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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and no tesla has crashed on auto pilot?
True.
If it can avoid the two large-arse objects in its nearest vicinity, you should be good to go until you land.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:59 pm to LSUAlum2001
What about tiny space debris that could damage the ship. You gonna get in a space suit and go weld up the Crack?
Posted on 2/27/17 at 5:03 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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What about tiny space debris that could damage the ship. You gonna get in a space suit and go weld up the Crack?
I get a space walk included, too?
Hell yes!
Posted on 2/27/17 at 5:04 pm to LSUAlum2001
all i can think of is that movie gravity. scary to me
Posted on 2/27/17 at 5:09 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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What about tiny space debris that could damage the ship. You gonna get in a space suit and go weld up the Crack?
Nope, and neither can the astronaut. You just have to hope for the best if tiny debris hits you, kind of like when a deer jumps out in front of your car.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 5:10 pm
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