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re: Southern University Warned It Could Lose Accreditation
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:02 am to TigersSEC2010
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:02 am to TigersSEC2010
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And what will be Gravy's excuse for this failure of a university?
Take a wild guess
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:02 am to Womski
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Didn't you go to Swagger University Law Center?
Me?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:02 am to TigersSEC2010
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:04 am to Tigeralum2008
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The state should absolve themselves of SU and let it be a fully private university.
It's gonna take a lot of catfish dinners to fund that place.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:05 am to TigersSEC2010
Based on my interaction with SU graduates in my profession, I would have shut it down years ago.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:05 am to mikrit54
One of the following: core GPA of 2.0 or ACT Composite score of 20
Stringent admissions...
Let the Ole Miss jokes flow...
Stringent admissions...
Let the Ole Miss jokes flow...
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:05 am to TigersSEC2010
That's a shame. That university used to have some clout!
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:08 am to Womski
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Hopefully this doesn't affect the law school
Are you serious? I have a stack of resumes on my desk where law school graduates who have passed the bar are willing to take $20 per hour for work. The majority are either Loyola or Southern law grads.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:15 am to TigersSEC2010
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This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:16 am to TigersSEC2010
What a waste of money. Is SUNO still sucking cash out of the state treasury?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:17 am to upgrayedd
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It's gonna take a lot of catfish dinners to fund that place.
LOL... Maybe our boy from the Chris Nakamoto thread yesterday can organize some car washes...
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:20 am to Tigeralum2008
There are FIVE HBCU's in Louisiana.
The more populous states of SOuth Carolina and Georgia have one and three respectively
There should only be two in Louisiana
A privately funded SU and the already private Xavier
The more populous states of SOuth Carolina and Georgia have one and three respectively
There should only be two in Louisiana
A privately funded SU and the already private Xavier
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:21 am to Boudreaux35
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Based on my interaction with SU graduates in my profession, I would have shut it down years ago.
I would say the same thing for most HBCU.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:22 am to Tigeralum2008
Grambling is an absolute shithole. That should go before SU.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:39 am to The Mick
This is typical SACS when there are "recommendations." SACS is one tough group, much moreso than the other five regional accrediting bodies. Much of this is, likely, poorly executed paperwork, and/or a "lack of assessment" which means they either do very ineffective surveying or do poorly on student surveys.
Effectiveness of programs has nothing to do with grades, in SACS World. It's an entirely different thing from grades. Institutional Effectiveness and Accreditation have their own language and processes, much of which changes every seven years, so that reinventing the wheel has to be done for nearly every ten-year assessment.
Now, I'm not absolving SU, but it's not an easy thing. Most schools now have to have I.E. officers and likely whole departments just to navigate the process and THEN educate your teaching faculty and administration.
Effectiveness of programs has nothing to do with grades, in SACS World. It's an entirely different thing from grades. Institutional Effectiveness and Accreditation have their own language and processes, much of which changes every seven years, so that reinventing the wheel has to be done for nearly every ten-year assessment.
Now, I'm not absolving SU, but it's not an easy thing. Most schools now have to have I.E. officers and likely whole departments just to navigate the process and THEN educate your teaching faculty and administration.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:43 am to upgrayedd
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Grambling is an absolute shithole. That should go before SU.
Absolutely agreed
If we still want a state funded "flagship HBCU" then keep SU but close SUNO and Grambling
The SU campus is large enough to accomodate demand
There are too many campuses siphoning from the very limited financial well.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:47 am to Tigeralum2008
The continuing SUNO debacle is completely unjustifiable
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:47 am to Tigeralum2008
We excoriate Washington, DC for "pork barrell" politics yet Louisiana has more than a few state funded universities that only exist because they are political pet projects.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:50 am to TigersSEC2010
This has nothing to do with race, this is based on what I have been told by people who graduated from Southern or had some type of experience with Southern.
- It is impossible to fail there. In other words, you can be the dumbest frick on planet Earth, just as long as you are able to attend classes on a regular basis (if a class in MWF and you only attend on MW, that's "regular basis") you will earn a degree.
- While there are some professors who are not as bad as others, most of the instructors/professors there would be without a job if all HBCU shut down.
- Someone who was a student there at the time told me that they were taking a history class. They had to write a two page essay on WWII or something related to WWII. When the instructor returned everyone's paper after she graded them, she had an A+. Not 98/100 A+ or anything, just A+.
When a guy sitting near her received his paper, she noticed he had an A+ as well, despite the fact he was the only person in the class who handed in a handwritten essay that was on paper torn out of a notebook (he didn't even bother to take the edges off). Although she didn't read his essay, she said the fact he received an A+ sort of devalued her A+. That's just one situation and I don't know how common that is, but it kind of supports what I said about how anyone can earn a degree from there.
- It is impossible to fail there. In other words, you can be the dumbest frick on planet Earth, just as long as you are able to attend classes on a regular basis (if a class in MWF and you only attend on MW, that's "regular basis") you will earn a degree.
- While there are some professors who are not as bad as others, most of the instructors/professors there would be without a job if all HBCU shut down.
- Someone who was a student there at the time told me that they were taking a history class. They had to write a two page essay on WWII or something related to WWII. When the instructor returned everyone's paper after she graded them, she had an A+. Not 98/100 A+ or anything, just A+.
When a guy sitting near her received his paper, she noticed he had an A+ as well, despite the fact he was the only person in the class who handed in a handwritten essay that was on paper torn out of a notebook (he didn't even bother to take the edges off). Although she didn't read his essay, she said the fact he received an A+ sort of devalued her A+. That's just one situation and I don't know how common that is, but it kind of supports what I said about how anyone can earn a degree from there.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:59 am to ihometiger
Wasn't SULC's bar passage last year around 40%? How the hell can you be accredited with numbers like that
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