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Some idiot from Advocate says "system rigged against poor kids' schools"

Posted on 9/16/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted by SMU Tiger Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
390 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 12:59 pm
Advocate article today

First of all, the dude doesn't even explain how he considers that "the system" is "rigged."

Okay, I get that the BR news media is liberally biased and all, blah, blah, but good lord, the guy isn't even satisfying the basic standards of a legitimate newspaper with this crap. Does the Advocate really think this is fit to publish?
Posted by LSU_postman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
2798 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:03 pm to
The paper thinks anything that will sell is fit to publish
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78311 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:04 pm to
The system is rigged against the kids who are morally impoverished. Kids that raise themselves tend to be morally impoverished. Nearly 80% of black kids nationwide are in single parent homes. Rinse . Wash. Repeat.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62712 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:06 pm to
rigged as in the majority of the single moms of the students don't give a shite?

Well, then he's right.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8176 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:06 pm to
I mean...maybe rigged is the wrong word because it implies a conscious effort. But there's no doubt there's a massive systemic advantage the better your school is. All else being equal, a kid's chances of professional success rise exponentially with quality and prestige of their school.

Not just going from McKinley to Catholic High either. The income gap between a Phillips Exeter grad and a Catholic High grad is probably the same as a McKinley grad to a Catholic High grad. Of course exceptional individuals have the ability in this country to break out of the path they're set on. But acting like there isn't a path based on your level of education is just blind.

Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28026 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:06 pm to
Ed Prat is white, correct?

I do love when White people tell other White people about how blacks feel and the shite we have done to them.

Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90425 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Brister said to the group that teachers are facing issues such as students coming to school tired because the man living with them was arrested by police late the night before. The children had to somehow get to school the next day and focus on classwork.

Then there are cases of several children from a family that had been kicked out of their house the day before. They come to school the next day, or they come back after sitting out for a couple days because of the upheaval.




I feel sorry for any kid who is experiencing that but the percentage has to be pretty low.

And to sum up his point, the solution is to just throw more money at the problem.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134837 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Brister said to the group that teachers are facing issues such as students coming to school tired because the man living with them was arrested by police late the night before. The children had to somehow get to school the next day and focus on classwork.

quote:

Then there are cases of several children from a family that had been kicked out of their house the day before. They come to school the next day, or they come back after sitting out for a couple days because of the upheaval.

quote:

“Now those kids come to school and want to sleep, or don’t want to be bothered and we have to find a way to teach them,” Brister said. “They are good kids but they have so much going on with them. But, it is our job to find a way to reach them. We have to do that.” “The big problem is that we don’t know how long the situations will last. Will it be three days? Three weeks or three months?” he said.

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When do these children do homework or just prepare for the next day without some adult guidance? These schools and children, many from low-income, one-parent households, have to meet the same state-mandated achievement numbers as those schools where the parking lots are loaded with luxury cars driven by students.



So these kids have terrible, 1-parent home lives. The school can spend $1 million/student and it wouldn't make a goddamn difference because these poor kids have shitty parents.
Posted by SMU Tiger Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
390 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:09 pm to
How is it "rigged?" They don't get enough of my tax dollars? Would it not be "rigged" if I had to pay more in taxes?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

And to sum up his point, the solution is to just throw more money at the problem

That's always their solution. And when it inevitably doesn't work, they say they just need more money.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:13 pm to
The Baton Rouge Business Report (which I have issues with too) had a pretty good article about the failed attempt to integrate BR schools in the 80s. The ruling essentially had the opposite effect of its intent.

LINK

And the rise of Ascension and LP due to the ruling

LINK
This post was edited on 9/16/17 at 1:21 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:13 pm to
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How is it "rigged?" They don't get enough of my tax dollars? Would it not be "rigged" if I had to pay more in taxes?




That's simply a buzzword the author used specifically for the intent of clicks. It took some serious massaging for him to explain how the system is "rigged".

These assclown writers do this all the time these days. Create the headline then write the story around it. Not the other way around.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41153 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

The system is rigged against the kids who are morally impoverished. Kids that raise themselves tend to be morally impoverished. Nearly 80% of black kids nationwide are in single parent homes. Rinse . Wash. Repeat.


He points that out-

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Brister said, where momma is “doing the best she can by working two and three jobs” to take care of her children. But then that creates “babies raising babies” at home.

When do these children do homework or just prepare for the next day without some adult guidance? These schools and children, many from low-income, one-parent households, have to meet the same state-mandated achievement numbers
Posted by SMU Tiger Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
390 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:14 pm to
By the way, the article says "rigged against poor kids' SCHOOLS," not poor kids. What the hell is he talking about?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:14 pm to
It has nothing to do with "good" or "bad" schools.

How good of bad the school is rated is generally determined by how much the general population of parents give a shite about their kids education.

It's rigged against kids that have dumbass parents.
This post was edited on 9/16/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134837 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

By the way, the article says "rigged against poor kids' SCHOOLS," not poor kids. What the hell is he talking about?

It's like saying a church is shitty, but the people that go to the church are good.

The church is the people just like the school is the students and staff.

These poor kids are unfortunately the product of a culture where family and education are seen as someone else's responsibility.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134837 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:18 pm to
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It's rigged against kids that have dumbass parents.

Yep. So is everything else in life.
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1028 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:20 pm to
I kind of get what he is trying to say but rigged is the wrong word. These kids don't have a shot because of their environment. There is nothing the Feds, state government or schools can do. This is a society issue and how our poorer people embrace the welfare, drug, popping out babies, etc culture.

On another note I wish we had a brave lawmaker that would decide to try and spend money on our upper and middle achieving students rather than focusing on special ed. Not saying we shouldn't help out our low students or those with handicaps but the amount of money and effort spent on these students is huge.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113874 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:22 pm to
The poorer a school is, doesn't it receive more federal money?

Everyone has the same opportunity to take advantage of resources provided to them, which is a free education, but the thing that holds back poor kids is their home environment. When you have parents who don't give a single frick about their kids, unless the kids are determined to get out on their own, there really isn't much hope for them.

In high school, I remember maybe 35% of the kids in advance classes were from poor families. Some even had scholarships available to them, etc and once they graduated high school, they ended up married and pregnant. It was the environment they lived in. That's what they were expected to do. So the system isnt rigged against them, its just the way it is.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:23 pm to
More money is dumped into "poor" schools however if the parents don't care, the students don't care, and eventually the teachers don't care.

Sad but true, in a lot of poor areas the teachers are glorified babysitters and everything wrong with the education system because they know they will fail.
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