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Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:29 am to Napoleon
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Personally I would like a world without privately owned guns
I don't think you would actually
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:31 am to stout
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that is commonly referred to as an "automatic" because
No it isn't.
Yeah.. it does. You guys are straw-man arguing with him.
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Automatic pistol may refer to:
Machine pistol, a handgun-style, magazine-fed and self-loading firearm, capable of fully automatic or burst fire, and chambered for pistol cartridges
Semi-automatic pistol, a type of self-loading handgun that can be fired in semi-automatic mode, firing one cartridge for each pull of the trigger.
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For example, the term "automatic pistol" technically refers to a machine pistol which is capable of firing multiple round bursts for a single pull of the trigger, although in popular US usage it is also used as a synonym for a semi-automatic pistol.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 9:32 am
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:31 am to saintsfan1977
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The solution is not banning guns, or having medical tests done on people. The solution is for every adult person to open carry a fire arm. People freak out if they see an individual walking with a high powered rifle in the street but every person on the street is carrying one, its no big deal.
I agree with everything else you said in your post, except this. Open carry isn't the answer, there are just way too many idiots out there. If open carry were legal, sure mass shootings may go away, but there would be a shitload more incidents and interactions that would normally be harmless, but would escalate to murder if both parties were carrying.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:32 am to 632627
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If open carry were legal,
it is legal...
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:33 am to Salmon
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If open carry were legal,
it is legal...
It's crazy how people that don't know much about guns want us to listen to them on how to regulate them.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:35 am to Salmon
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I don't think you would actually
What good are handguns against Machine guns, tanks, bombs and fighter planes with missiles. The second amendment does let me utilize any of this. (sure you can buy a tank, but it has to be made not to fire, you can buy a foreign warbird as long as it can't have weapons.
So in 2015 what the hell sense does it make for me to protect myself from the government?
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:35 am to Salmon
He is probably referring to a hypothetical situation in which nobody has guns and none of these tragedies happen, which is what I alluded to in my post.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:36 am to Salmon
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If open carry were legal,
it is legal...
depends on the state, the poster you are responding to lives in California, not Louisiania. So in some states it is not legal. You knowledge of Louisiana gun laws does not make that the be all end all of knowledge on the laws.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:36 am to weagle99
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Slain reporter's parents decide that guns are to blame for the crime
That sucks. I really wanted to like those people too.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:37 am to stout
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by stout
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If open carry were legal,
it is legal...
It's crazy how people that don't know much about guns want us to listen to them on how to regulate them.
It's legal in certain counties. It's not the law of the land. Just because you guys can open carry somewhere in Louisiana doesn't mean I can walk through my city open or concealed.
Open carry isn't a viable option in a city with 5 million densely populated people.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:39 am to Napoleon
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So in 2015 what the hell sense does it make for me to protect myself from the government?
I wasn't talking about the government
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:39 am to Napoleon
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If open carry were legal,
it is legal...
depends on the state, the poster you are responding to lives in California, not Louisiania. So in some states it is not legal. You knowledge of Louisiana gun laws does not make that the be all end all of knowledge on the laws.
It's funny that the other guy chastised me on not knowing the laws....
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:41 am to Napoleon
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Personally I would like a world without privately owned guns
I'd like a toilet seat made of solid gold!! Sad thing is that statement is more realistic and less asinine..
When are people going to take a step back and realize that you're blaming a tool for a crazy persons actions?
Yes a firearm is the most effective way to end another life , but banning guns isn't going to actually solve anything..
Hell, with about 300 bucks a fireworks stand, hardware store and right target... Crazy people could do a lot more damage than a single person with a gun..
That kinda Utopian pipe dream is exactly what governments want its citizens to have... Make that whole controlling it population thing less tricky..
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:41 am to stout
There was another one a while back, I think it was the Newtown school shooting or something. The parents were perfectly composed and gave what I thought was a speech written for them. And then you have the professional protesters and people getting paid to protest
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:41 am to GaryMyMan
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Oh, fine. Only First World country where this happens, with any regularity. But by all means keep comparing the United States to Pakistan, China and whatever other strawman point you were trying to make.
Murder is already illegal. Murderers won't abide by gun laws. The only reasonable way to make gun control more than a nuisance to law abiding citizens is to confiscate the 300 million guns in circulation in America.
It won't happen. Move your arse to Canada.Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:44 am to Napoleon
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Guns are absolutely a huge problem, anyone who doesn't think so is in denial. Guns absolutely make it easier for people to kill others, much easier then knives or other deadly weapons. If guns ceased to exist the world would be a safer, less tragic place. But here is the conundrum; (as someone stated earlier) we have 300 million guns. Guns are embedded in our society, culture and even our bill of rights. They are just a part of who we are. We are way past the point of eradicating guns, its just not possible. Gun laws and restrictions are pointless. Criminals, by definition, ignore laws. The laws just make things more difficult for law abiding and responsible gun owners. Even if guns were completely outlawed, there are still hundreds of millions in circulation that would wind up in the hands of criminals.
We are a country of 250 million people, there will always be crazy people, angry people, and people looking to kill. There is no solution to these tragedies unfortunately.
edit- I have zero problem with a strict and thorough background check and laws regarding sales of guns(i.e. restricting private cash&carry transactions). The laws that are pointless are the ones that restrict magazine capacity, the "safe handgun roster" of california, etc.
I agree with most of this. I keep seeing people shouting for gun control after these tragedies but I don't see anyone ever bring up any really feasible way to do that.
How tight would the laws have had to be to prevent this latest incident to happen?
Addressing our overall understanding and treatment of mental health is a more logical step than tighter gun control.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:45 am to fr33manator
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This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:47 am to Napoleon
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What good are handguns against Machine guns, tanks, bombs and fighter planes with missiles.
Guerrilla warfare against an armed government can be incredibly effective, as history has shown repeatedly.
Or are you assuming that everyone associated with the government and military will be riding around in a tank?
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So in 2015 what the hell sense does it make for me to protect myself from the government?
Don't worry about the government man. It loves you and will always take care of you.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 9:52 am
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:54 am to weagle99
I don't see how the quote in the OP equates to the title in the OP.
It may, but nothing I saw from the quoted text of the article insinuates that at all.
It may, but nothing I saw from the quoted text of the article insinuates that at all.
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