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SJW Threaten Batgirl Artist -- Cover Yanked
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:37 am
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:37 am
So, a commemorative variant cover has been yanked -- at the artist's request -- because he received threats from SJWs due to the cover's provocative (triggering) subject matter.
The cover in question is an homage to the "Killing Joke" arc where the Joker rapes, shoots and paralyzes Barbara Gordon (Batgirl).
Apparently, portraying a sociopathic, homicidal lunatic as such is not allowed anymore.
The cover in question.
Article
The cover in question is an homage to the "Killing Joke" arc where the Joker rapes, shoots and paralyzes Barbara Gordon (Batgirl).
Apparently, portraying a sociopathic, homicidal lunatic as such is not allowed anymore.
The cover in question.
Article
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:37 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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threats from SJWs
are massages to my soul
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:40 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Way to twist what actually happened.
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"Ill talk more about it tomorrow but I was never threatened. just to make it clear." Stewart stated, "Something to clarify, because DCs statement was a little unclear. @rafaalbuquerque did not get threats. People OBJECTING to the cover did."
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:42 am to Dr RC
DC said violence was threatened. Artist later said it was not. Based on the history of past "movements" like this, I'm more inclined to believe DC.
But, really I don't care if they threatened the artist's life or not. I care that a piece of good art was suppressed because it made people feel "icky."
But, really I don't care if they threatened the artist's life or not. I care that a piece of good art was suppressed because it made people feel "icky."
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:44 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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the Joker rapes, shoots and paralyzes Barbara Gordon (Batgirl).
Right in the fricking bullet hole at that.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 11:45 am
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:47 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Oh ok. The guy who actually drew it is lying. Got it.
and BTW, if you've read any Batgirl recently you'd know that Killing Joke is as far from the current tone as can be. Hell, New 52 rectconned KJ out of continuity anyway. Its just not relevant to the current comic.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:50 am to Dr RC
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New 52 rectconned KJ out of continuity anyway. Its just not relevant to the current comic.
That's incorrect.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:50 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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The cover in question is an homage to the "Killing Joke" arc where the Joker rapes, shoots and paralyzes Barbara Gordon (Batgirl).
He doesn't rape her
ETA: At least according to the Wiki article on the story
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 11:52 am
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:56 am to Murray
I guess I should have said retconned "most of" it out.
She's no longer paralyzed and depressing.
She's no longer paralyzed and depressing.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:57 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Of course. Once people see that cover they'll immediately think it's OK to do that to women.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:01 pm to lsu480
This is Alan Moore we are talking about. It's heavily implied though DC has never confirmed it, for obvious reasons.
And I haven't ready a Batgirl title in years. I read more indy stuff -- like the Sixth Gun -- than Marvel and DC these days, if I read anything. The only new 52 stuff I read was the new Constantine (Hellblazer).
I just think it's a great looking cover, and I don't understand why someone would feel the need to have it pulled.
EtA: Indirect quote from Alan Moore:
I wsa suprised to see that there was no mention of the oft quoted reading of the book that the Joker actually raped Barbara Gordon and may in fact have raped Jim Gordon too. When asked about this reading of the comic Alan Moore allegedly said (to some UK comicbook creator friends of mine) that he fully accept that reading but wouldn't be drawn on if he intended it to be in there... when pushed further he apparently said that as far as he was concerned the Joker did rape her but not in any of the 3 orifices one would imagine... he always thought the Joker used the wound... remind me never to visit Alan Moore's head... All that aside I don't think I know anyone over the age of 25 who have read the book and not assumed that a rape took place - which in turn makes the whole book all the more horrific. I believe this reading was also mentioned as fact in a wizard-style magazine 'hero' that profiled various supervillians.
And I haven't ready a Batgirl title in years. I read more indy stuff -- like the Sixth Gun -- than Marvel and DC these days, if I read anything. The only new 52 stuff I read was the new Constantine (Hellblazer).
I just think it's a great looking cover, and I don't understand why someone would feel the need to have it pulled.
EtA: Indirect quote from Alan Moore:
I wsa suprised to see that there was no mention of the oft quoted reading of the book that the Joker actually raped Barbara Gordon and may in fact have raped Jim Gordon too. When asked about this reading of the comic Alan Moore allegedly said (to some UK comicbook creator friends of mine) that he fully accept that reading but wouldn't be drawn on if he intended it to be in there... when pushed further he apparently said that as far as he was concerned the Joker did rape her but not in any of the 3 orifices one would imagine... he always thought the Joker used the wound... remind me never to visit Alan Moore's head... All that aside I don't think I know anyone over the age of 25 who have read the book and not assumed that a rape took place - which in turn makes the whole book all the more horrific. I believe this reading was also mentioned as fact in a wizard-style magazine 'hero' that profiled various supervillians.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:05 pm to Dr RC
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She's no longer paralyzed and depressing.
No, she was paralyzed and then had some mysterious, ground breaking procedure that has her up again. I think they're just getting into the details of that now.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:08 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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I just think it's a great looking cover, and I don't understand why someone would feel the need to have it pulled.
I agree. Too much power being given to the pc crew way too quickly. Oh well... it won't be long before it blows up in enough of their faces and its put to a stop.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:38 pm to Murray
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No, she was paralyzed and then had some mysterious, ground breaking procedure that has her up again.
yea, and that translates to "she is no longer paralyzed"
to be happy do you need me to say she was a cripple but got fixed and now is shy around guns?
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:01 pm to Dr RC
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yea, and that translates to "she is no longer paralyzed"
No need to translate.
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New 52quote:KJ out of continuity anyway
rectconned
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I guess I should have said retconned "most of" it out.
She's no longer paralyzed and depressing.
The word "retcon" has a specific meaning in reference to storytelling.
quote:
revise (an aspect of a fictional work) retrospectively, typically by introducing a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events.
New 52 Batgirl was still shot, raped, and paralyzed by the Joker at some point in her past. They just chose to correct the paralysis with a mystery surgery so she could be Batgirl again.
Adding more to the previously established continuity is not a retcon.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:19 pm to Murray
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The word "retcon" has a specific meaning in reference to storytelling.
Yea it means to go back and alter previously established continuity.
Giving her the ability to walk again instead of forever being paralyzed and being Oracle while Stephenie Brown takes up the mantle of Batgirl is a retcon.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:30 pm to Dr RC
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Yea it means to go back and alter previously established continuity.
Previously established continuity was that she was shot, raped and paralyzed by the Joker.
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Giving her the ability to walk again instead of forever being paralyzed and being Oracle while Stephenie Brown takes up the mantle of Batgirl is a retcon.
Erasing Stephanie Browns time as Batgirl from the history books is a retcon.
Barbara Gordon regaining the use of her legs after being shot, raped and paralyzed by the Joker is not a retcon.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:36 pm to Murray
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Erasing Stephanie Browns time as Batgirl from the history books is a retcon.
Barbara Gordon regaining the use of her legs after being shot, raped and paralyzed by the Joker is not a retcon.
dude she works with/tries to dissuade Brown as Batgirl when she is Oracle.
I'm sorry but it was a retcon to give her legs back.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:41 pm to Dr RC
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dude she works with Brown as Batgirl when she is Oracle.
Right. They retconned Brown as Batgirl out of DC continuity.
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I'm sorry but it was a retcon to give her legs back.
Trust me. I have zero problems giving it to you if you weren't factually wrong. Retcon has a definition and specific use and you're using it incorrectly.
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