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re: Serial ... Is Adnan Syed Guilty?

Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by BoominHogtown
Quantico
Member since Dec 2012
421 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:53 pm to
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"Court of law" guilty? Probably not "Did he kill her" guilty? Absolutely


I think it was ep.2 where they first mention the "pathetic" comment. That courtroom exchange was very telling.
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:47 pm to
I agree with pretty much everyone here. I believe Adnan (probably with Jay help) killed Hae. They tried to plan it all out and it folded up and became a prisoners dilemma. At the end of the day, I do think Adnan was the one who completed the physical act of murder.

However, I found it interesting the facts of the case (and sometimes the lack of facts). Specially the timing after school to commit the killing in such a short window.
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18402 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 5:42 pm to
Just finished the podcast. I also believe Adnan is guilty but I think Jay was much more involved and it's shocking that he only received probation.

I know one thing....the people involved in the whole story were telling a TON of lies.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 5:54 pm to
There's another podcast, but it's biased toward Adnan. It's called "Undisclosed". I listen to it, because I find the case interesting.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71957 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 6:48 pm to
And God damn her accent/inflection/style were annoyingly Generation X liberal woman.

frick this. Unbearable at times. I would get in a trance sometime and just focus on the way she talked and it would annoy me to no end
Posted by Oizers
Member since Nov 2009
2640 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:06 pm to
For me, they were never able to reconcile why Jay would kill Hae without Adnan's involvement.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:09 pm to
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Just finished the podcast. I also believe Adnan is guilty but I think Jay was much more involved and it's shocking that he only received probation.

I know one thing....the people involved in the whole story were telling a TON of lies.

Let's just throw out the fact that Jay sat with two detectives for six hours before they decided to record the events before/after the death of Hae Lee.

Also, I think some of you are forgetting the fact that this crime happen in 1999. It would be a completely different situation if it happen in present day.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:28 pm to
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Let's just throw out the fact that Jay sat with two detectives for six hours before they decided to record the events before/after the death of Hae Lee.
I know it's biased, but the new podcast has really highlighted the shadiness and incompetence of the investigation. I mean they completely lost Hae's computer. Jen admitted to discussing the murder with two friends multiple times, yet they were never interviewed.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:52 pm to
Link to new podcast?
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18402 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:51 pm to
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Link to new podcast?
iTunes

Official Site
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 8:52 pm
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43460 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:09 pm to
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Follow up question:

Does Sarah Koenig want to frick Adnan?


I thought for sure that the last episode was going to be about them getting married or some shite.

btw, any word on a new season? motherfrickers better not cancel after I donated money.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:34 pm to
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Would you prefer the word," fight their agenda" instead?
I read something for two new seasons. I'll try to find it.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18402 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:54 pm to
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btw, any word on a new season? motherfrickers better not cancel after I donated money.

They already confirmed a second and third season. The second is supposed to air in the fall and the third in the spring.

LINK
Posted by MorgusTheMagnificent
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
1852 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:40 pm to
Not guilty! Too many doubts to convict! BTW great podcast
Posted by MorgusTheMagnificent
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
1852 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:41 pm to
'Twas thinking that myself
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:46 pm to
yes
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:52 pm to
What a bump
Posted by MorgusTheMagnificent
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
1852 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:00 pm to
Just listened to the show for the first time.. I was going to start a tread but figured the slueths on OT were already on this topic. After a quick search, I found the original thread and went for the bump
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18402 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:04 pm to
There may be too much doubt to convict him in our judicial system but that dude definitely did it....or played a MAJOR role. I think Jay got off way too easy.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:14 pm to
The thing is, Jay has no motive to have killed Hae himself or to have been involved with anyone else who killed her on whose behalf he would have later framed Adnan.

There's a huge "motive gap" for any other explanation of him knowing where Hae's abandoned car was OTHER than 1) Adnan did it or 2) the cops framed Adnan by pressuring Jay into his coached confessions.

So I agree with the postervwho said we're left with only two plausible explanations.

This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 9:19 pm
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