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Sentencing question about Saw-like Situation
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:07 pm
Just got finished watching an episode of Criminal Minds in which this was a scenario.
Guy kidnaps three cheerleaders and throws then in a stone celler.
Tells them only two can come out alive before he let's them go.
One of the cheerleaders hammers another one in the head and then the guy releases the remaining two.
What's the charge for that if your the Feds or State in a situation like that?
Guy kidnaps three cheerleaders and throws then in a stone celler.
Tells them only two can come out alive before he let's them go.
One of the cheerleaders hammers another one in the head and then the guy releases the remaining two.
What's the charge for that if your the Feds or State in a situation like that?
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 10:08 pm
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:09 pm to gaetti15
uh.. murder?
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:11 pm to gaetti15
Charles Manson is still in jail.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:13 pm to gaetti15
quote:
Just got finished watching an episode of Criminal Minds in which this was a scenario. Guy kidnaps three cheerleaders and throws then in a stone celler. Tells them only two can come out alive before he let's them go. One of the cheerleaders hammers another one in the head and then the guy releases the remaining two. What's the charge for that if your the Feds or State in a situation like that?
I don't know. What do you get charged with when two cheerleaders accuse you of kidnapping them and murdering their friend?
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:13 pm to gaetti15
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Guy kidnaps three cheerleaders and throws then in a stone celler.
Pretty sure kidnapping three people sends you to prison for a long time even without murder or felony murder charges.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:14 pm to gaetti15
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:15 pm to gaetti15
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What's the charge for that if your the Feds or State in a situation like that?
For Jigsaw or for the cheerleader.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:15 pm to Huey Lewis
That's the first thing that popped into my head, buy then I got to thinking...
What happens if you put people into a situation that didn't require murder or suicide, but that was an easier way outo of the situation than the other ways.
For instance, like being a Falcons fan during the latter half of the Superbowl?
What happens if you put people into a situation that didn't require murder or suicide, but that was an easier way outo of the situation than the other ways.
For instance, like being a Falcons fan during the latter half of the Superbowl?
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:16 pm to Breesus
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For Jigsaw or for the cheerleader.
Both
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:30 pm to gaetti15
Kidnapper catches all the charges, cheerleaders get counseling.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:59 pm to gaetti15
Cheerleader gets off if threat of death was imminent and she didn't do it just to get let go. Also if she acted in self defense.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:06 pm to WestSideTiger
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Cheerleader gets off if threat of death was imminent
That's the crazy part she was really sick...like high fever and everything...don't know what from though...
Other two cheerleaders were contemplating killing her because she looked like she was on the verge of death...but she took initiative and killed the main girl who was plotting with the other girl to kill her.
Only real threat of death was starvation from food or water. Guy who kidnapped them wasn't going to kill them with any thing else besides just leaving them in the cellar
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:09 pm to gaetti15
Life for the kidnapper
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:13 pm to Walt OReilly
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Life for the kidnapper
Just for the kidnapping? I think that would do it right?
I'm more curious as to what the prosecution would bring forward and possibly what the defense would bring.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:53 pm to gaetti15
It depends if they killed the ugly one. Out of 3 cheerleaders at least one is hideous and should naturally be the first to go. I'll allow it as long as the pecking order remained intact.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 12:15 am to gaetti15
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Just for the kidnapping? I think that would do it right?
He would catch the murder charge too. He coerced them into the murder. Nobody would have died if he hadn't put them in the situation, and he knew exactly what he was doing.
Charles Manson never actually murdered anybody. I don't think he was ever even present for any of the murders. But he was found guilty of 7 first degree murder charges and 7 conspiracy to murder charges.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 12:16 am to BowlJackson
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Charles Manson never actually murdered anybody. I don't think he was ever even present for any of the murders. But he was found guilty of 7 first degree murder charges and 7 conspiracy to murder charges.
Makes sense thanks for explining that bether than the other guy.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 12:50 am to BowlJackson
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He would catch the murder charge too. He coerced them into the murder. Nobody would have died if he hadn't put them in the situation, and he knew exactly what he was doing.
Charles Manson never actually murdered anybody. I don't think he was ever even present for any of the murders. But he was found guilty of 7 first degree murder charges and 7 conspiracy to murder charges.
What people seem to forget when mentioning Manson for this argument is that his followers who did the actual killing are still in jail too. Just because he was guilty didn't automatically absolve them. Although, it's not exactly the same as this Criminal Minds scenario.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 1:00 am to Hot Carl
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What people seem to forget when mentioning Manson for this argument is that his followers who did the actual killing are still in jail too. Just because he was guilty didn't automatically absolve them
They also weren't captives under the threat of death like in this OP situation.
The girls in that situation wouldnt get charged with anything at all.
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