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Segregation to Integration: Defend the position
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:55 am
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:55 am
Do you agree with school integration that took place after the Brown vs Board of Education decision by SCOTUS.
Please give reasons for why you are for or against it.
Even though people tend to segregate themselves, that should not really be an impetus to deny any group or person the chance at receiving a quality education.
If you intentionally choose to segregate yourself (and spend your own money to do so) then I think you have a strong stance. I think acceptance and cooperation are the better alternative.
Today, we can blame a person's decisions for their educational faults. Prior to the 1960s, that was not exactly the case.
These threads have me wondering whether or not I should find work and move to the Northeast or California.
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:55 am to volod
This thread will go exactly as planned....
Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:57 am to volod
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These threads have me wondering whether or not I should find work and move to the Northeast or California.
Those places are more racist than the South.
As far as your original question, it's an easy call. The government has no right to segregate people by skin color.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:00 am to volod
I agree with Muhammad Ali
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:02 am to Bestbank Tiger
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The government has no right to segregate people by skin color.
I agree
I also believe the government has no right to force integration.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:03 am to volod
Integration ruined the East Baton Rouge school system.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:04 am to volod
Integration is good.
Forced integration is not a strategy that I would recommend.
Forced integration is not a strategy that I would recommend.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:04 am to volod
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These threads have me wondering whether or not I should find work
I am begging you to not start another job hunt.
on topic...The government has no need to segregate the populace...We will do that on our own.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:08 am to volod
Of course segregation in the public school system was wrong. Some whites fled the public system because they were racists and didn't want their children, especially their daughters, in school with blacks. But many more left, or never entered, the public system because so many students are undisciplined and disruptive.
And I have news for you, racism in the Northeast is as bad or worse than it is in the south. CA is better than the NE, but it's no racial utopia either.
And I have news for you, racism in the Northeast is as bad or worse than it is in the south. CA is better than the NE, but it's no racial utopia either.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:12 am to White Roach
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Some whites fled the public system because they were racists and didn't want their children, especially their daughters, in school with blacks
Many feared the schools would go to s*** and they was right
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:14 am to volod
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Do you agree with school integration that took place after the Brown vs Board of Education decision by SCOTUS.
Yes
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Please give reasons for why you are for or against it.
Forced segregation was wrong
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If you intentionally choose to segregate yourself
Everyone self segregates. It may not be based on race, but you prefer to hang out with certain people.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:16 am to volod
quote:i agree with this....Now,more pics of the dark chick in the white swimsuit please.
I think acceptance and cooperation are the better alternative.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:24 am to volod
Look at what happened in Baton Rouge. They started bussing kids from "bad" schools to "good" schools.
Tge quality in the education began to drop in the good schools, and affluent families moved or paid for perochial education.
So is it the school or the quality of student? I also don't think this is necessarily about race, but a socioeconomic issue.
Tge quality in the education began to drop in the good schools, and affluent families moved or paid for perochial education.
So is it the school or the quality of student? I also don't think this is necessarily about race, but a socioeconomic issue.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:26 am to volod
Separate but equal is awful.
If a private company wants to discriminate, I don't agree with it, but they should be able to sell products or services to who they want in most situations. I have enough faith in the citizens of America that racist businesses will ultimately go out of business.
If a private company wants to discriminate, I don't agree with it, but they should be able to sell products or services to who they want in most situations. I have enough faith in the citizens of America that racist businesses will ultimately go out of business.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:34 am to volod
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Do you agree with school integration that took place after the Brown vs Board of Education decision by SCOTUS.
Yes to what happened immediately after. ETA: meaning the elimination of segregated schools based solely on skin color and not geography.
No to forced busing. Back in the 70s, I recall kids who had to spend at over an hour each day on a bus (round trip), almost all of those black kids, when there was a school within 10 minutes of their house. It just seemed like it was yet another recipe for disincentivizing education for that demographic. Just my take on it.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 7:35 am
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:39 am to Placebeaux
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Of course segregation in the public school system was wrong. Some whites fled the public system because they were racists and didn't want their children, especially their daughters, in school with blacks. But many more left, or never entered, the public system because so many students are undisciplined and disruptive.
The schools went to shite because discipline went to shite. Teachers became babysitters. Or maybe "cowboys" is more appropriate, because they had to ride herd on animals all day.
The public high schools in Jefferson Parish integrated in about 1965. The Feds forced bussing in 1971. The high schools became sexually segregated and didn't go co-ed again until about 1980.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:53 am to White Roach
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The schools went to shite because discipline went to shite. Teachers became babysitters. Or maybe "cowboys" is more appropriate, because they had to ride herd on animals all day.
I agree with this sentiment.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:27 am to volod
Forced segregation and forced integration have both been proven to be complete failures.
People will and should gravitate to whatever group they feel most comfortable with without government interference to force segregate or force integrate. this is without question, none of government's business to social engineer American life, but to simply make sure there is opportunity away from government interference to participate equally.
Keep this in mind. Segregation and integration are both the responsibility of government, and like everything with government, it's become one hot mess of a failure in first alienating people through segregation, and then destroying neighborhoods and schools as well as families even with forced bussing.
The answer must always come from the people themselves, and not government.
People will and should gravitate to whatever group they feel most comfortable with without government interference to force segregate or force integrate. this is without question, none of government's business to social engineer American life, but to simply make sure there is opportunity away from government interference to participate equally.
Keep this in mind. Segregation and integration are both the responsibility of government, and like everything with government, it's become one hot mess of a failure in first alienating people through segregation, and then destroying neighborhoods and schools as well as families even with forced bussing.
The answer must always come from the people themselves, and not government.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:30 am to volod
quote:I agreed with it. The black schools were pitiful in the area in which I was raised.
Do you agree with school integration that took place after the Brown vs Board of Education decision by SCOTUS.
I was alive and aware of the situation prior to those days.
Sadly, many of you have strong opinions of the era not based in fact.
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If you intentionally choose to segregate yourself....
Many black people still chose to segregate themselves. I hear "black community" and "black culture" coming from the mouths of black people.
I see areas where the black people chose to live. White people not welcome.
No one bitches about all the black faces in the schools in those areas.
Since we are integrating schools why do we taxpayers pay so much for 2 colleges in the same city?
Let's go all the way and combine L.S.U. and Southern.
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move to the Northeast or California.
So move to those extreme leftist areas ... or move to the suburbs, assimilate into American culture as I have, look around to see what life is like before uprooting, ....
...and quit visiting this site. Coming here will only depress you.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:14 am to volod
quote:
Do you agree with school integration that took place after the Brown vs Board of Education decision by SCOTUS.
Of course schools should have been integrated. Zones are geographical and should be open to any child, regardless of color.
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These threads have me wondering whether or not I should find work and move to the Northeast or California.
So that there is little chance your kids will go to an all black high school? Seems hypocritical.
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