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Science philosophy question: Which is a better way to measure?
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:37 am
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:37 am
Here's an opinion question for those of you that like to think and talk about science.
This question is about the detection part of sampling.
Setup: a bowl of 10,000,000 marbles. 1,000 red marbles, and 9,999,000 green marbles.
Which is the more accurate way to get the makeup of the red marble count?
Count all the green marbles?
OR
Count all the red marbles?
Which, given counting error would be the most reliable method when there is likely error present?
Which way to quantify would require counting of the highest resolution?
Which way of counting would you say represents the better way to count?
This question is about the detection part of sampling.
Setup: a bowl of 10,000,000 marbles. 1,000 red marbles, and 9,999,000 green marbles.
Which is the more accurate way to get the makeup of the red marble count?
Count all the green marbles?
OR
Count all the red marbles?
Which, given counting error would be the most reliable method when there is likely error present?
Which way to quantify would require counting of the highest resolution?
Which way of counting would you say represents the better way to count?
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:38 am to Pectus
I'm not doing your homework.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:39 am to Pectus
I would advise against putting all your marbles in one bowl
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:39 am to Pectus
You already know there are 1000 red marbles.
Problem solved
Problem solved
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:39 am to Pectus
Count all marbles. Divide by blue
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:40 am to Pectus
quote:
Which is the more accurate way to get the makeup of the red marble count?
Count all the green marbles?
OR
Count all the red marbles?
Neither your teacher told you the exact makeup
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:41 am to Pectus
You don't have any marbles. You lost them years ago.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:41 am to Pectus
quote:
Which is the more accurate way to get the makeup of the red marble count?
If you are looking for the number of red marbles, it seems pointless to count the green ones.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:42 am to Pectus
I would be confused as to why I have a big fricking bowl with 10 million marbles in it. Then I would get a slingshot.
This post was edited on 8/29/16 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:43 am to Pectus
You framed this problem wrong. Don't give the counts of the marbles, but rather the percentages.
And the answer would be to count them both...multiple times.
And the answer would be to count them both...multiple times.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:44 am to TheFonz
quote:
I would be confused as to why I have a big fricking bowel with 10 million marbles in it. Then I would get a slingshot.
I'd be more confused by why you decided to eat them.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:44 am to Pectus
Using these quanities, and time not being a factor, I would say count the Green marbles.
Counting all of the green marbles ensures that you've not missed any red marbles. It would be much easier to spot a missed green amongst 1000 as opposed to one red amongst 9 million.
Counting all of the green marbles ensures that you've not missed any red marbles. It would be much easier to spot a missed green amongst 1000 as opposed to one red amongst 9 million.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:45 am to Salmon
There is no answer...
It is only which is easier to count, and which way to count is more reliable?
It is only which is easier to count, and which way to count is more reliable?
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:47 am to Pectus
quote:
It is only which is easier to count
green
quote:
which way to count is more reliable?
red
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:48 am to Pectus
Why would you need to count the red marbles if you already know you put 1,000 in the bowl?
Posted on 8/29/16 at 12:01 pm to Pectus
Red marbles. The error will be much smaller
Posted on 8/29/16 at 12:12 pm to Salmon
Just knowing the % of each, I would get a total volume of the storage container, a volume of one red and green marble (making sure they were the same, then estimate the total count. Multiple by the %, and have my answer.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 12:17 pm to Pectus
Weigh the 1,000 marbles
Do the math as if you weighed all the marbles
Then weigh the green marbles, it should be pretty close
Do the math as if you weighed all the marbles
Then weigh the green marbles, it should be pretty close
This post was edited on 8/29/16 at 12:18 pm
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