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Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:45 am
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11665 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:45 am
I had an a/c repair company out yesterday for a compressor issue. He evaluated my 10yr old equipment for me and offered his suggestions:
New 4 ton American Standard 16 Silver Series
Correct drain problems
New wires for condenser
New lines set
New return upstairs
Correct airflow/ rebalance ducts.
10yr. parts & labor + 1yr. maintenance

Total price was $11,261

Does this seem about right? If we decide to move forward, I'll definitely get another quote or two.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77940 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:45 am to
SEER rating?

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compressor issue.


do you really need a new system instead of a compressor?

i mean i know this is about what you spend on a new bike with SRAM wireless but still...
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 9:48 am
Posted by Dan Bilzerian
..on my yacht or jet.
Member since Dec 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:47 am to
Call Corey at American Mechanical: 225-733-4778
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167089 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:48 am to
16 Series = 16 SEER rating IIRC
Posted by LSU8654722
Member since Apr 2014
1495 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:48 am to
The 4 ton and Return are like $9,000 alone. So I don't think you got screwed, you just didn't get a deal.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11665 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:58 am to
I should have clarified that they are going to create a new return location to help increase the efficiency of the unit. Currently I have the return running through what is basically a drain access. Apparently that's how most of these older homes did it in the 70003. He suggested a new return at the top of the stairwell, out of sight, that should create a better draw on the hot and humid air. It sounded logical. The wires outside are old and they were stapled to the house. They are starting to fray around the staples. The compressor was actually fine. My dumvass installed my best incorrectly and had the compressor running 24/7 since early summer. Whoops.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 9:59 am
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22056 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:03 am to
Just my opinion, but that does sound like a bit much. A couple years ago I got a total system replacement (14 sear), where I was going from a 4 ton to a 5 ton unit. It involved adding an additional return and 2 extra drops to compensate for the extra tonnage. Total price was less than $6000. If I had gone with the 16 sear, the price was a bit under $9000.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11665 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:08 am to
I plan to get two other quotes. For the record, the compressor is working fine again. He said he could get me back to par. That was his suggestion for a great system. I plan to be in this house for 5-7 more years. I figured take the hit now and benefit from it for a while rather than replacing it for the next person when I plan on selling.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:13 am to
go mini splits bro
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35883 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:14 am to
If you plan on staying spend the money on good equipment, but if you are only staying for a few years don't.

5 years is marginal, stay more or don't spend yoiur cash now.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 10:15 am
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11665 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:17 am to
I asked about a mini split for the dog lair/laundry room. He said they look cheap but after the electrician/plumber are factored in they escalate pretty quickly.
Posted by SingerAssassin
Member since Dec 2015
82 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:17 am to
Why do you need a whole new unit inside and out for a compressor issue? Pull the top change the compressor, resodder the lines, pull vacuum, and charge the unit with freon . $1600 to $2100 job.
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
Meh He Co
Member since Oct 2010
14564 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:17 am to
Did exactly all of this with a 5 ton unit
7k
Kelly Scott
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:22 am to
how many rooms need to be heated/cooled? Plumbing and wiring to them is not hard at all. the tech lied. LG QUAD ZONE



Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11665 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:32 am to
I had someone out for a compressor issue. That's not why I need a new unit. He just offered it as a suggestion. In my mind, utilizing something for 5-7yrs. that has a +/- 15yr. life span made sense. Plus, I like being comfortable. I would like to draw out more humidity from the upstairs. He said he could make my upstairs temp = my downstairs temp.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 10:34 am
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11665 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:33 am to
He didn't say it was hard. He said the cost could add up quickly. Said he'd be glad to sell me one if I really wanted it.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:48 am to
best thing about those mini splits is no loss of cooling or heating through ducts. And you set different rooms for different temps during the day.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
2986 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:57 am to
quote:

how many rooms need to be heated/cooled? Plumbing and wiring to them is not hard at all. the tech lied. LG QUAD ZONE



I have two 4 ton Mitsubishi Mr Slim units similar to that. 7 air handlers total, 4 ductless, 3 ducted. shite was pretty easy to install myself, but the line sets and plumbing routing is about as complicated as a nuclear submarine.

Works incredibly well, but if I can't imagine what it would've cost to hire someone to install it.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:59 am to
quote:

but the line sets and plumbing routing is about as complicated as a nuclear submarine.
they come pre charged and sealed. I know it's not the easiest thing running copper line and insulating it but maybe the way you ran it was harder? Did you run the lined ouside the walls with conduit or thru the walls?
Posted by brew400
West side Best side
Member since Sep 2009
575 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:02 am to
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. That said, get a couple quotes, make an informed decision. Installation is key
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