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re: Recommendation on the best place to get your pilots license in BR?

Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:12 am to
Posted by Bmath
LA
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:12 am to
Congrats on the exceedingly high chance of death if you go through with it.

I know several people that have given up flying because they've lost close friends doing this. In fact, my grandpa who flew fighter jets for the air force talked my dad out of getting a pilots license.

Maintenance issues aside, many casual pilots don't fly enough to really keep up their skills, but are over confident and get in trouble flying in subpar conditions.

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Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:37 am to
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Congrats on the exceedingly high chance of death if you go through with it.


As is indicated in the article you linked comparing accident statistics for private aviation to driving a car is difficult, but those who have attempted it usually come up with you are about 20 times more likely to die flying in a private plane than driving in a car. Sounds bad, but that is still considerable safer than riding a motorcycle which NTSB and insurance statistics indicate you a chance of dying 30 times that of driving a car. Life is about understanding and managing risk.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 11:39 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:46 am to
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Congrats on the exceedingly high chance of death if you go through with it.


Ridiculous and unnecessary comment. I'd 100% rather be in a single engine Cessna any time than in a car on a Friday night. Driving to work every day is the most dangerous thing you'll ever do. I had two sisters killed in car accident caused by other drivers within a year of each other. I didn't sell my truck and buy a bus pass. And like he said, driving a motorcycle is far, far more dangerous than flying a plane or driving a car.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 11:47 am
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4057 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:59 am to
I know a guy you should talk to especially if you are considering using a plane in your businesss. He is an LSU grad.

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This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:07 pm to
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Ridiculous and unnecessary comment.


It really isn't though. Perhaps a bit sarcastic, but not unfounded. Also, take note of JugeHolden's comments on the previous page.

I'm not saying no one should do it. However there are very real dangers associated with flying your own plane.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14786 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:12 pm to
Buy a flight simulator on amazon
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8593 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:41 pm to
That I know of most all people pay about the same thing to eventually get their pilot's lic. Assume $10K to cover everything from start to finish. Sounds like one of the guys said in Hammond they could do it faster etc. I don't know anything about that
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:48 pm to
some planes aren't really rated for spins. A Cessna 152 can pop right out of a spin.

172s as well. A Cirrus in the owners manual says to pull the emergency shoot if you get into a spin

I never went into a spin. I did mock training on how to get out of a spin, but never put an aircraft into an uncontrolled descent and then pulled it out.

Stalls, sure, we had to stall multiple times every flight. As well as do simulated emergency landings and crabs and forward slips. No spins though.


Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:50 pm to
$600 AT fly by Night for ground school including materials. It's six weeks of classes. I would say do that first then do air training or do both at the same time.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:01 pm to
What were you in? I did it in a Champ, but never in anything larger or less aerobatic than that.

I did fly Grummans for a while, the kind with the freewheeling nose gear and the sliding canopy. They were all placarded with "You spin, you die."
Posted by Goalman34
Ruston, LA
Member since Sep 2013
512 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:09 pm to
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Congrats on the exceedingly high chance of death if you go through with it.


Thanks Debbie Downer
Posted by Goalman34
Ruston, LA
Member since Sep 2013
512 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:10 pm to
Having your pilots license is an instant panty remover for the ladies
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 9:11 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:18 pm to
I'll give you my .02 cents.

I graduated from LA Tech in aviation early 90's with an instrument, commercial, multi-engine and CFI. Worked as a CFI for a couple years then moved to Alaska and was a bush pilot for 18 months. Moved back to LA, got my ATP and flew corporate and then Boeing 727's for a cargo airline. I've got over 5,000 hours of flight time.

If you have the money, buy yourself or buy into a partnership in a Cessna 172 and find an instructor you like to teach you. Study aerodynamics, weather and FAA regulations before and during your instruction. Some things about flying are harder to comprehend without experiencing them. Don't worry about taking the written test before you start flying.

As far as flying yourself for business and getting your instrument license, make sure you have a very good instructor and very good avionics, instruments and radios in your aircraft, and you are very, very proficient or it will become your casket. Instrument flying is not something to take lightly. It can be very, very dangerous for inexperienced pilots.

Basically, flying an airplane is like many other jobs or hobbies that require much practice. Experience is everything. The more you do it, the better you get at it. Good judgement and experience will keep you out of trouble and make you a better pilot. Remember this always, over 90% of airplane accidents are caused by pilot error.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 10:27 pm
Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
1483 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:37 pm to
That's fine as long as you're in a spin-approved airplane. Don't try it in something like a Bonanza (except the F33A).
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:44 pm to
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I never went into a spin. I did mock training on how to get out of a spin, but never put an aircraft into an uncontrolled descent and then pulled it out. 
Damn, when did you get your license?

I last taught flight training in '97, and spin recovery was a requirement. I used to introduce my students to it cautiously because the first time you experience one it's pretty fricking frightening. But I would do it often enough with them to get them comfortable and confident in their ability to recover from one.

Stall/spin accidents account for a large portion of aircraft accidents and are almost always fatal.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 12:33 am to
Spin recovery no longer required for PPL, though the FAA still pounds stall recognition and recovery. And you're right... that was my experience as a student - my instructor "introduced" them to me, and I nearly introduced shite to my pants.
Posted by Priapism99
Rhode Island
Member since Nov 2014
1909 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 12:46 am to
Try the airport
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57126 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 2:40 pm to
Part 141 is also eligible for the GI Bill. Too bad there's not one in Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 2:51 pm
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