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Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:19 am to
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:19 am to
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Yes but i tend to view racism through the use of force and power to
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legislate and impose discrimination on people based on their race.



doesn't affirmative action discriminate?
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:24 am to
Immnot going to deny the racism that exists outside the south ...

But to ignore all the blatant attempts by southern To overthrow our govt and to commit treason against our great union all so they could treat their brother and fellow country man like a piece of sh_t is just asinine.

Shall we forget where reconstruction was birthed? Or where George Wallace galvanized a region? Or who ushered us into our more regrettable war, mainly over "states rights"? Or the home of the worlds most prisons per capita...in the freest nation on earth? Land of the boom of private prisons, where we profit off human containment? Land where we gerrymand to death to disenfranchise voters? Home of the poll tax and literacy tests? Home of busing desegregation? Home of voter ID laws, outlawed by the Supreme Court in the 1960s after the Civil rights out, but then immediately ushered back into existence the very min Justice John roberts said southern states don't need their elections to be FEDERALLY monitored? The home of FEDERALLY monitored elections because we couldn't trust OURSELVES to not disenfranchise our own brothers?


You gotta be kidding me
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:26 am to
Not to say the north doesn't have its problems.

But we have ours SOLELY BECAUSE OF OUR ACTIONS.

Time to accept the truth. That's the only way to fix the problem if you want to
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:28 am to
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Shall we forget where reconstruction was birthed? Or where George Wallace galvanized a region? Or who ushered us into our more regrettable war, mainly over "states rights"? Or the home of the worlds most prisons per capita...in the freest nation on earth? Land of the boom of private prisons, where we profit off human containment? Land where we gerrymand to death to disenfranchise voters? Home of the poll tax and literacy tests? Home of busing desegregation? Home of voter ID laws, outlawed by the Supreme Court in the 1960s after the Civil rights out, but then immediately ushered back into existence the very min Justice John roberts said southern states don't need their elections to be FEDERALLY monitored? The home of FEDERALLY monitored elections because we couldn't trust OURSELVES to not disenfranchise our own brothers?



were you alive for any of this?
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:28 am to
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doesn't affirmative action discriminate


In a literal sense maybe, but that would imply that minorities and whites have equal footing , opportunities and similar historical and presen day implications.

That's 100% not true. So no it's not discriminate IMO
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:31 am to
Grandparents were prejudice in the not as capable a race type of way. My mother is the type that locks her door when a black man is approaching her car door. I honestly don't know of an instance where my dad displayed racism in front of me. He taught me to judge people by their personal actions. My best friend dated a black girl and I do remember another friend being taken back when he found out about it. After a day or two he was past it. It's strange to me though that the majority of my black friends in (Catholic) High School are the ones shouting white privelege now. Same kids who were popular in a majority white school and had every opportunity every one else did.

My generation was told to study, work hard, and do the right which would result in success. Sometimes, that isn't enough and you fail like the one who never put in any effort. There is a period of time where that shocks you and I guess I understand it being easy to join in when society tells you there is a specific reason for that. Most just learn that life isn't always fair.
Posted by SaintBrees
Member since Oct 2015
547 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:31 am to
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This sounds really bad but having lived in LA and other parts, the black people in LA are very different



I think this is an important point. And it isn't even just black people in general, but it is a large percentage of our black population. I work downtown and take Main Street all the way from downtown to N. Acadian every day. Drive down that street any day of the week at any time of the day, and most houses have someone on the porch or in the yard hanging out. You have to wonder how so many able-bodied people have that much free time. This is the case in most of north BR. That street is one of many.

As someone else mentioned, there is a lot of hatred towards white people here in BR as well. This was the case long before the Alton Sterling/Gary Chambers era. I can't tell you how many times I've been shoved into, cut in line, etc. by a black person (usually women).

Just look at your experiences in grocery stores or fast food places. It is very normal for us to just accept that we are going to be spoken to like shite. This rarely happens to me in CA, NY, etc.

I don't think this is unique to Louisiana alone, but I think it definitely put the racism here into perspective. And I say that as a huge lefty liberal. I am very defensive when it comes to racism and it is not okay at all to me. But being raised here and seeing black culture here does help me understand why some people feel the way they do. I don't approve of it, but I see the cause/justification they have.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 10:37 am
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:32 am to
The voter ID laws and the gerrymandering goes on everyday. So yes so some of it

And IMO you didnt have to live through it to it feel it's lingering effects?

Would a kid born to a crack fiend not have felt the implications of Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagans admittantly racist drug enforcement policies? I could argue that baby's kids kids feel It too.

This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 10:36 am
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79110 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:36 am to
haven't read the thread, but i can only speak from my own experiences that racism in LA isn't just relegated to one specific grouping, it comes from all over.

growing up where i did, i had never even heard the word 'asian' before until some white kid called me that in the 6th grade. I didn't realize it was supposed to be some derogatory term until I asked others what it meant. Same school year, i was called some crazy ching chong asian bullshite by a few black kids that i really didn't feel like standing up to and getting my brains beat in afterwards. It's obvious that those kids grew up not thinking much of vn immigrants, it's likely what their parents taught them at home.

I was told that my people had more advantages than real Americans bc we didn't pay any taxes...on anything and everything. Yeah, that's kinda fricking false.

regarding marriage outside the race, i had 2 sisters that married white dudes and i can tell you that my pops was strictly against it, until he realized that his daughters would hate him forever if he pulled some shite like trying to break it up. He only cares about their happiness, and now with grandkids, he wouldn't have it any other way. I don't think he's racist, but more of a traditionalist. I think we get too wrapped up in trying to pin labels on supposed racists that we forget that some people just haven't been exposed to these experiences, so they reject it at first.

There's alot of ignorance out there, too much of it...but it's not just here, it's everywhere.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6386 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:37 am to
I was born in 1980 so I didn't have anything to do with any of that, I'm not denying it didn't happen because we all know it did, it's just hard for me to apologize for something I didn't do. I was raised right and I'm trying my hardest to raise my children the same way because it all starts at home.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:43 am to
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but that would imply that minorities and whites have equal footing


when you force companies/universities to hire/accept lesser qualified individuals based on skin color it's discrimination
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6386 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:50 am to
Would a kid born to a crack fiend not have felt the implications of Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagans admittantly racist drug enforcement policies? I could argue that baby's kids kids feel It too.


I agree with you on that, the war on drugs was and continues to be a failure. It played a big role in destroying the nuclear black family.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27655 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:52 am to
I really notice the difference in blacks in LA when I come back for work and go to a gas station or fast food. The service is unreal and the people literally are incompetent and lazy

It's amazing y'all ever get roadwork done.
Posted by MuffMan
Alexandria
Member since Aug 2005
13 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:58 am to
@LSUcjb318 It was Jones street jr high you guys were bussed to
Posted by Thacian
USA
Member since Aug 2015
2173 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:48 am to
Imo, blacks are all racist, some more concentrated than others....they act like you owe them something because of slavery..the majority are on welfare and we pay for it, never got appreciated for that by them....have heard blacks call whites the Isis of america... lol

Define irony.....most blacks are democrats......white democrats consider you to be a under class that they control, fyi, when slavery was abolished....democrats voted in Congress to continue slavery....
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 11:52 am
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:52 am to
my mother is the worst. she's hispanic, so it makes me laugh.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:56 am to
brah, i don't think you know how to use those quote things
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:05 pm to
Maybe you have a problem with tolerance?
Maybe you can't understand racism and why it's useful?
You should accept racism.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6386 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:14 pm to
Nope. I thought I had it figured out, guess not.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:20 pm to
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Imo, blacks are all racist, some more concentrated than others....they act like you owe them something because of slavery..the majority are on welfare and we pay for it, never got appreciated for that by them....have heard blacks call whites the Isis of america... lol

Define irony.....most blacks are democrats......white democrats consider you to be a under class that they control, fyi, when slavery was abolished....democrats voted in Congress to continue slavery....



You sound very uneducated sir. That's unfortunate.
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