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re: Question for Iraq/Afghanistan vets and friends of same: (possible trigger alert)
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:17 pm to baybeefeetz
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:17 pm to baybeefeetz
The one vet I encounter on a regular basis says that getting shot at in NOLA after Katrina was more traumatic than anything he encountered in Afghanistan or Iraq. He never expected to be shot at by other Americans.
And he's a purple heart recipient whose HV was blown up by an IED.
And he's a purple heart recipient whose HV was blown up by an IED.
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:17 pm to baybeefeetz
I'm always happy to share what my job was when I was in the box... But never go into details about what happened.
I know that a lot of vets don't like sharing details with people who didn't go.
Anyone who does is probably full of shite about 90%+ of what they're saying.
Oh, and don't ever ask a vet, "Did you ever kill anyone?" It's a terrible question that I suspect you really don't WANT the answer to and it's hard to talk about shite like that.
I always said that if you ever take someone's life for whatever reason, that shite goes to the grave... No exceptions.
I know that a lot of vets don't like sharing details with people who didn't go.
Anyone who does is probably full of shite about 90%+ of what they're saying.
Oh, and don't ever ask a vet, "Did you ever kill anyone?" It's a terrible question that I suspect you really don't WANT the answer to and it's hard to talk about shite like that.
I always said that if you ever take someone's life for whatever reason, that shite goes to the grave... No exceptions.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:18 pm to baybeefeetz
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did you ever feel like talking to a counselor?
I saw a therapist and a psychiatrist for about 5 years. Still seeing the psychiatrist every 6 months now.
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Specifically, which ones?
The VA diagnosed me with PTSD, and I have Bipolar Disorder, so they have tried everything from Valium to Lithium, to Valproic Acid (I take 750mg daily)
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:19 pm to yankeeundercover
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Anyone who does is probably full of shite about 90%+ of what they're saying.
That's interesting. I guess I may have a bit of an irrational assumption that somebody who went to war would not lie about it.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:19 pm to baybeefeetz
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How would it come about? Like would you just be having issues and your wife wouldn't understand or show empathy? And then that would make you mad and you would fight?
It didn't really "come about" as much as my everyday demeanor changed. I was pissed all the time. Everybody aggravated me and my patience for stupidity was nonexistent. I was confrontational to everybody and really didn't know how to handle going from being switched "on" all the time like you are in combat to hanging out on my couch.
In fairness, none of my issues were my wife's fault. You come back a different a person from combat and it's tough on your spouse to deal with. That's how you know when you've got a good one though. We're still together and if she stayed with me through that, she's not going anywhere.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:21 pm to baybeefeetz
No but if I get into my feelings on counselors I'd hijack your thread 
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:21 pm to KajunGator
Damn, man. That's heavy shite, but good for you for engaging in some treatment.
See, if I had stuff I was dealing with mentally like that, I'd feel the urge to tell people as early as I could something that would clue them in a bit, so they wouldn't think I was just acting some type of way for no good reason.
What to disclose and what to keep secret is often tough, though.
See, if I had stuff I was dealing with mentally like that, I'd feel the urge to tell people as early as I could something that would clue them in a bit, so they wouldn't think I was just acting some type of way for no good reason.
What to disclose and what to keep secret is often tough, though.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:23 pm to BigEdLSU
I'm sure I'd like to hear that, too.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:24 pm to baybeefeetz
Oh I'll bring some Jesus into this thread with the quickness. Consider yourself notified
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:25 pm to BigEdLSU
You've been there so you should think about becoming a counselor. I know I didn't liek talking to some dipshit civy counselor who had no clue how to relate to what I was going through.
I'm looking into volunteering fro some of the support groups at the VA. I miss being around the guys and I think I could help with the transition to civilian life. I know I've made some mistakes that I think others can learn from.
I'm looking into volunteering fro some of the support groups at the VA. I miss being around the guys and I think I could help with the transition to civilian life. I know I've made some mistakes that I think others can learn from.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:25 pm to baybeefeetz
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See, if I had stuff I was dealing with mentally like that, I'd feel the urge to tell people as early as I could something that would clue them in a bit, so they wouldn't think I was just acting some type of way for no good reason.
You would be surprised what you would end up suppressing. It took a year with my therapist for me to open up a discuss things
It's like yankee said, many Vets don't like to talk about things but I had an issue so I got the help I needed.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:25 pm to BigEdLSU
aw shite. Nevermind.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:26 pm to baybeefeetz
Second guessing my decisions/actions at the time which might have led to a different outcome when someone got hurt.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:27 pm to DesertTiger44
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I'm looking into volunteering fro some of the support groups at the VA. I miss being around the guys and I think I could help with the transition to civilian life. I know I've made some mistakes that I think others can learn from.
Do that shite.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:29 pm to DesertTiger44
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It didn't really "come about" as much as my everyday demeanor changed. I was pissed all the time. Everybody aggravated me and my patience for stupidity was nonexistent. I was confrontational to everybody and really didn't know how to handle going from being switched "on" all the time like you are in combat to hanging out on my couch.
This is almost exactly how I felt. Was there for the invasion. I also had a lot of guilt. Another one of my problems was having feelings for anyone, for whatever reason I had zero sympathy for anyone. I was also amped up all the time, would get panic attacks. Couldn't sleep at all and drank way to much.
Got help and realized why things were happening to me and how to handle myself better. Doing much better now.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:30 pm to Bushmaster
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Second guessing my decisions/actions at the time which might have led to a different outcome when someone got hurt.
I can see how that would haunt you. There are probably more "tried and true" ways of dealing with that than for other kinds of combat-related trauma, I would think. Doesn't mean it's an easy fix, though.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:31 pm to Yammie250F
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for whatever reason I had zero sympathy for anyone
How the hell do you correct/address/adjust/whatever that?
I feel that way a bit. I wish I was more naturally empathetic.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:34 pm to baybeefeetz
nothing to add to this thread, except the obvious....
thank you to every single one of you that selflessly and courageously served our country... really, thank you 
thank you to every single one of you that selflessly and courageously served our country... really, thank you
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:35 pm to Yammie250F
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Another one of my problems was having feelings for anyone, for whatever reason I had zero sympathy for anyone. I was also amped up all the time, would get panic attacks. Couldn't sleep at all and drank way to much.
Yep, this as well.
The Army called it "Failure to Adjust" back when they refused to give a PTSD rating.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:37 pm to chRxis
Yeah, no doubt. I appreciate that service more and more.
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