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Pipeline Inspection & Magnetism
Posted on 10/16/16 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 10/16/16 at 3:02 pm
If any of you are in the pipeline inspection business... running inspection equipment inside pipelines looking for cracks, corrosion, etc... question for you.
If there was a magnetic particle (say the size of a BB or T shot) would your equipment recognize it with right type of software or would it be seen as just some type of anomaly or mass?
I know you guys can spot hairline cracks in pipe that aren't visible to the eye. Just wondering if you would see a small bit of magnetic steel on outside of carbon steel pipe?
Thanks in advance.
If there was a magnetic particle (say the size of a BB or T shot) would your equipment recognize it with right type of software or would it be seen as just some type of anomaly or mass?
I know you guys can spot hairline cracks in pipe that aren't visible to the eye. Just wondering if you would see a small bit of magnetic steel on outside of carbon steel pipe?
Thanks in advance.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 3:18 pm to Tridentds
What do you mean?
Is the magnetic particle within the base steel, or is it like a small magnet attached to the outside?
If attached to the outside, it would depend on the inspection technique, and relative size of object.
Is the magnetic particle within the base steel, or is it like a small magnet attached to the outside?
If attached to the outside, it would depend on the inspection technique, and relative size of object.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 3:28 pm to LSUtigerME
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Is the magnetic particle within the base steel, or is it like a small magnet attached to the outside?
Yes, it would be on the outside. A series of magnetized BBs put into a row for identification.. Kind of a marker for use during inspection.
As I understand it a hairline crack is seen because it interrupts the "flow" of a charge from the inspection device. Software determines the severity by interpreting the results.
Do you have experience with these types of inspections? Basically trying to size a magnet. The smaller the better so looking at BBs, and Triple BBS, etc... Can go larger but trying to see what might be smallest that would be seen by a reasonably sensitive inspection device.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 3:29 pm to Tridentds
What did you do? Shoot a pipeline instead of a deer?
Posted on 10/16/16 at 3:52 pm to Tridentds
Internal inspection tools look for internal anomalies and conditions
For an external anomaly you need an external inspection
Not sure what you are looking for
In service pipe or out of service?
For an external anomaly you need an external inspection
Not sure what you are looking for
In service pipe or out of service?
Posted on 10/16/16 at 3:53 pm to Tridentds
Trying to make a bomb or something baw?
Posted on 10/16/16 at 4:01 pm to Tridentds
Smart pig will pick up that hot tap you are thinking about putting on that line.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 5:00 pm to supatigah
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In service pipe or out of service?
Not yet in service. New pipe just installed. 2 pigging runs to get welding slag and dclean any debris out of pipe. The first mapping and inspection run is where I would need to see the "markers". Obviously all pipe would be buried at this point.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 5:09 pm to Tridentds
I think this counts for "If you see something say something".
Posted on 10/16/16 at 5:32 pm to OysterPoBoy
The inspection is typically done with ultrasonics (smart pig) which will not detect the BBs on the OD surface. If the ID tags were continuous or integral to the surface (welded or clad) the machine would detect it and you could print the tag with the typical shaded/gradient chart. They would have to be attached in some manner that sound would clearly pass through the surface.
If it is a flaw detection technique such as GUL or UTSW or MFL, it detects disruptions in the waveform as the sound or magnetic wave passes through the steel. Magnets would disrupt it, but I'm not sure it would be identifiable and unique like you seem to want.
I'm not as familiar with Pipeline inspection (more process piping in a facility) but my impression is they use Smart Pig most often, and GUL as another alternative. Both of these allows a high confidence inspection over long piping runs.
If it is a flaw detection technique such as GUL or UTSW or MFL, it detects disruptions in the waveform as the sound or magnetic wave passes through the steel. Magnets would disrupt it, but I'm not sure it would be identifiable and unique like you seem to want.
I'm not as familiar with Pipeline inspection (more process piping in a facility) but my impression is they use Smart Pig most often, and GUL as another alternative. Both of these allows a high confidence inspection over long piping runs.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 8:21 pm to LSUtigerME
You're inspecting a pipeline and coming here for instructions? Jesus, I hope this line is far away from BR and carrying something harmless.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 8:30 pm to Tridentds
Could you bond your marker to the pipe at the same time you coat the weld site?
Posted on 10/17/16 at 12:22 am to Tridentds
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Location: Sugar Land
I work for a pipeline company based out of Sugar Land, I hope you don't work for us
Answer is yes
Posted on 10/17/16 at 1:53 am to ScrapPack
quote:this
Smart pig will pick up that hot tap you are thinking about putting on that line.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 1:54 am to tigerinthebueche
quote:probably out on Elliot Rd.
You're inspecting a pipeline and coming here for instructions? Jesus, I hope this line is far away from BR and carrying something harmless.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:14 am to ScrapPack
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Smart pig will pick up that hot tap
Posted on 10/17/16 at 6:52 am to Tridentds
Yah, x-ray crew would shoot and fail the weld due to mag particles.
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