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Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:37 pm
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:37 pm
I'm trying to add more cardio to my workout, but I'm struggling. Up till this past week I've been either shooting around or playing pick up basketball at the gym as my only cardio. Now I'm starting to run too but I'm already out of breath about 1 mile into it. Running on the treadmill is easier and I'm able to run longer without feeling exhausted, but I like being outside more. Here are my questions:
1. How long does it take to get into running?
2. Is it better to run before or after working out?
3. What kind of goals should I set in the beginning?

I appreciate it y'all.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:38 pm to
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How long does it take to get into running?


bout halfway, then you're getting out of running.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20685 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:38 pm to
Just don't hurt your knees man. That shite sucks.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171035 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:39 pm to
how fat are you?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83517 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

How long does it take to get into running?


well that is a bit subjective, but once it becomes easier, you will enjoy more

quote:

Is it better to run before or after working out?


shite read that wrong

I'd run before the workout

quote:

What kind of goals should I set in the beginning?


find a couch to 5k program and sign up for a local 5k
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Black
My own little world
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:39 pm to
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2. Is it better to run before or after working out?



i've always heard that 30 minutes of cardio is always a good idea before a workout
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:40 pm to
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Paging All Runners
would get more interesting replies if you were running paige
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9311 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:47 pm to
1) It takes awhile. It's a sliding scale, because a body in motion tends to stay in motion and vice versa. If you're not doing any cardio, massively overweight and haven't done much to generate a real sweat, it could take months. But it sounds like you're already doing some physical activity, so start at a 6.0 mph pace (10 minute miles), and run two miles.

2) Are you trying to build muscle mass or don't care? You will hear people say to never run and lift on the same day, but you should be fine as long as you space them out by a few hours. All the same, I'd rather lift first, then run. I find when I do it the other way around, I've got far less energy to put into my lifts.

3) Goals? Short term- 30 minutes without stopping at your training heart rate. Medium range- aim for a 5k or 10k. If you're coming into running from the couch, this should take you a good 6-9 months. Your time won't be world class, but so what? Focus on finishing the race without stopping. Long term- enjoy a healthy, stronger you. Running is a way of life. It's not a destination that you arrive at. You're never "there".

I lost 80 pounds in a year thanks to solid cardio and eating right. I went from running 2 miles at a labored, slow pace to running 8 miles a day at 7 minute miles. But I'm always trying to get faster. You can do it, bro. Good luck. The hardest part is the first 30 days. But stick with it.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 1:48 pm
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10177 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:47 pm to
I'm 23. 6'1. 185. No idea what my body fat % is but my goal is to lose like 5-8lbs of fat, then gain back what I lost with muscle.
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13503 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:49 pm to
Do as I have done - start at running 1/2 mile, 3 times per week. Then add .05 to it every week after. May take a while, but your endurance goes up.

Also, I should add that I can't run on cement bc of a reconstructed ankle. Impact with the most modern technologically advanced shoe still sends shockwaves up my leg and into my back. Treadmills for the rest of my life unfortunately.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278154 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:49 pm to
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No idea what my body fat % is but my goal is to lose like 5-8lbs of fat, then gain back what I lost with muscle.


you need to lift weights, not cardio
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10177 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:51 pm to
Right now I'm running 1/2 a mile at a 6min mile pace, then resting for 3 mins, and repeating till I can't keep it up at the same pace.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98128 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:51 pm to
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I'm 23. 6'1. 185. No idea what my body fat % is but my goal is to lose like 5-8lbs of fat, then gain back what I lost with muscle.


If your goal is to add muscle, it's easier to do that first and then lose the extra fat. To increase muscle mass, you have to take in more calories than you burn.
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
5667 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:52 pm to
If you are suggesting,

quote:

so start at a 6.0 mph pace


Wouldn't your short term and medium goals be almost the same?

quote:

Goals? Short term- 30 minutes without stopping at your training heart rate. Medium range- aim for a 5k


Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10177 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:52 pm to
I've been lifting for about 2 months already, so I'm just trying to find more excuses to "get off the couch".
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
5667 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

I'm 23. 6'1. 185. No idea what my body fat % is but my goal is to lose like 5-8lbs of fat, then gain back what I lost with muscle


Start with 12 to 15 minutes on treadmill before each workout. Not heavy, just to get loose, blood pumping and starting to sweat. Looks like you need to start at 5mph.

Then lift for 30 -45 minutes. I recommend heavy with your height/weight.

Over time you will be able to increase speed on treadmill with out wearing down on the weights. Once you can start your workout with a 7-8 mph jog and feel good, a 5k will be no problem.

If done consistently, you will lose fat quicker than what you are attempting to do.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18255 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:58 pm to
If your goal is to build muscle and lose fat, distance running isn't for you. Distance running basically cannibalizes your body and eats away both muscle and fat. You should look into HIIT training. It's a cycle of sprints and recovery that increases your lung capacity and builds muscle.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32504 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

I'm 23. 6'1. 185. No idea what my body fat % is but my goal is to lose like 5-8lbs of fat, then gain back what I lost with muscle.

I am 31 years old and am working my arse off to get back into shape. Liten when I tell you, do not put on too much weight. Even if it is muscle, you do not want to bulk up your body. Stick with being in good cardio vascular shape, and just lift weights enough to stay tone. It sounds like you are on the right track, but do not listen to folks who are saying put on the muscle then trim the fat. Fat is fat is fat, keep up with the running and just lift a litter harder if you want 5-10 extra pounds of muscle.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171035 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:59 pm to
you should gain muscle first in all honesty. muscle burns calories faster.


do HIIT like someone else mentioned.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278154 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:59 pm to
well you said you wanted to lose fat, then add muscle back on. thats a dumb concept when you can do it all in 1. So that was pretty confusing
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