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Posted on 5/26/14 at 4:55 pm
Posted by BIGDAB
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 4:55 pm
Do any of you have any experience with tempo training?

I've been reading up on this topic and have been incorporating the 4210 method in my workouts for about a month now. I usually choose one exercise a workout day for tempo training, for instance squats, or deadlifts on leg day, military press on shoulder day, etc.

If you are using this method how often are you implementing it into your workouts? If you've training with this method for a while I would appreciate whatever input you might have on the subject.

TIA
Posted by DanTiger
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 5:01 pm to
I have never heard of temp training. I do perform speed work on bench press once per week and occasionally use it on squat days to get out of the hole faster
Posted by BIGDAB
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 5:05 pm to
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I have never heard of temp training


Using bench press as an example

4 seconds down, hold for 2 seconds, and explode up in 1 second... repeat
This post was edited on 5/26/14 at 5:15 pm
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 5:07 pm to
That's simply good practice in bodybuilding


Time under tension
Posted by BIGDAB
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 5:13 pm to
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That's simply good practice in bodybuilding


I agree, and I've never been one who tries to do exercises to fast, however I've never used a set tempo when lifting either.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

Using bench press as an example

4 seconds down, hold for 2 seconds, and explode up in 1 second... repeat


Didn't know there was a term for this, but I incorporate one of these per day into my workouts.

I will say, however, that I find it's only doable with upper body lifts like bench or overhead press. I have tried it with squats and deadlifts and it's too taxing on my back and spine. Holding a deadlift descent or pausing for 2 seconds at the trough of any squat is going to be extremely taxing.

I guess you could lower the weight, but it would have to be an extremely low weight for me to be comfortable with it. I really like it for bench or overhead press, though!
Posted by BIGDAB
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 5:24 pm to
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I will say, however, that I find it's only doable with upper body lifts like bench or overhead press. I have tried it with squats and deadlifts and it's too taxing on my back and spine. Holding a deadlift descent or pausing for 2 seconds at the trough of any squat is going to be extremely taxing.

I guess you could lower the weight, but it would have to be an extremely low weight for me to be comfortable with it. I really like it for bench or overhead press, though!


I started with no weight at all, just to get the feel of it, I won't go heavy at all, my intent is to use the tempo training to help me get over plateaus.

If you are worried about your back you could try a machine assisted squat.
Posted by TheZaba
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 5:28 pm to
So it's essentially providing all 3 types of exercise to a muscle group - eccentric, concentric, and isometric?

The idea isn't bad, but I can't see how you'd be able to do too much weight with this or you're gonna absolutely kill your muscles
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 5:33 pm to
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I started with no weight at all, just to get the feel of it, I won't go heavy at all, my intent is to use the tempo training to help me get over plateaus.


Not a bad idea. I do find I struggle breaking through squat plateaus.

quote:

If you are worried about your back you could try a machine assisted squat.


I've always felt these machines do more harm than good. I'm a firm believer in the whole "body is a unit" argument. Using a machine to supplement certain aspects of your body that aren't strong enough to complete a complex lift will only lead to an imbalance in body composition and that will lead to injury.

Again, only my opinion, but I see people get injured on those all the time because they don't have the core, stabilizer, or hamstring muscles to really lift the weight their squatting.

I'll try it with really low weight, though, without a machine and see how it feels .
Posted by BIGDAB
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 5:34 pm to
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The idea isn't bad, but I can't see how you'd be able to do too much weight with this or you're gonna absolutely kill your muscles


correct.

you definitely have to be careful. Especially with squats and dead lifts.
Posted by DanTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:51 pm to
That type of training is counterproductive for the type of lifting I do so it is not something I use. I imagine it would make you very sore the first time you try it.
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