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OT Lawyers -- quick question about practicing
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:23 pm
Knowing what you know now, if you were just graduating law school, what type of law would you practice?
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:25 pm to TheOcean
I would build a time machine, go back a few years, and punch myself in the face for deciding to become a lawyer.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:26 pm to stringer_bell
Assuming you can't build a time machine
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:28 pm to TheOcean
It's probably easier to tell you what I wouldn't do.
Plaintiff's law of any kind
Tax
Family
Probably not T&E
I've done a variety of things including commercial lit, insurance defense, employment (both sides), some corp/transactional, lender liability and some real estate. SO does commercial real estate after a few years doing lender liability.
I would rank that stuff:
1) Corporate
2) Employment
3) General Commercial lit/lender liability
4) Real estate
5) Insurance defense
I don't hate any of it, but employment is probably going to be my focus for client development going forward.
My ranking of real estate is based on my practice, not what my GF does. She's having a so-so transition, but once it settles down I think commercial real estate is a good gig if you're in a strong practice.
Plaintiff's law of any kind
Tax
Family
Probably not T&E
I've done a variety of things including commercial lit, insurance defense, employment (both sides), some corp/transactional, lender liability and some real estate. SO does commercial real estate after a few years doing lender liability.
I would rank that stuff:
1) Corporate
2) Employment
3) General Commercial lit/lender liability
4) Real estate
5) Insurance defense
I don't hate any of it, but employment is probably going to be my focus for client development going forward.
My ranking of real estate is based on my practice, not what my GF does. She's having a so-so transition, but once it settles down I think commercial real estate is a good gig if you're in a strong practice.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:31 pm to TheOcean
Building a time machine is probably easier than landing a biglaw job.
Anyways, seems like those who have taken clerkships are doing well. Clerkships are a good springboard for multiple opportunities and don't limit your knowledge to one area of law. Of course, fed clerk positions are extremely competitive.
Honestly, if you're considering law school you need to look at LST. It breaks down all graduate employment by sector and salary, and notes when schools don't properly report employment data.
Anyways, seems like those who have taken clerkships are doing well. Clerkships are a good springboard for multiple opportunities and don't limit your knowledge to one area of law. Of course, fed clerk positions are extremely competitive.
Honestly, if you're considering law school you need to look at LST. It breaks down all graduate employment by sector and salary, and notes when schools don't properly report employment data.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:31 pm to TheOcean
gambling law to enforce bets against welchers
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:33 pm to Pettifogger
I'm in tax. Granted tax season isn't fun, I think my practice is less stressful than any of my friends that litigate.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:34 pm to TheOcean
Are there lawyers that represent the ladies of the OT that reneg on ban bets?
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:34 pm to AbsolutTiger
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I'm in tax.
Did you have a background in tax before law school? I enjoyed my tax class.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:35 pm to AbsolutTiger
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I'm in tax. Granted tax season isn't fun, I think my practice is less stressful than any of my friends that litigate.
Yeah, OP, don't take my stuff as a general survey of legal practices. I hate any and all tax work I have to do as part of my practice areas, and I hated the tax classes I took in law school. I'm just giving you my own likes/aversions
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:36 pm to WDE24
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Bird Law
Bird law in this country is not governed by reason
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:36 pm to Pettifogger
Yeah, I realize this thread is super subjective--just curious about the different opinions
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:37 pm to TheOcean
i don't like dealing with people, especially general public and annoying "bulldog" type attorneys.
it took me almost 15 years to find a practice i don't hate. i have a specialized commercial RE practice. mainly i like not going to court, having VERY limited number of clients, and being able to practice remotely from anywhere in the world. it also crosses over into other business interests i have.
those general aspects are what i can recommend trying to focus on, rather than the actual substance, unless there is just something you love. I love intellectual property, constitutional law and jurisprudence/legal philosophy, but other than some IP, i don't really do a lot of those things because i don't want to work that hard to get into them professionally--rather just leave as hobbies and incorporate them into other aspects of life--writing and business.
i couldn't imagine coming out of law school right now. i would study a little harder (I did well but not very top), actually do the joint grad school degree i started but dropped the masters immediately, get a PhD, and then teach/do policy work. maybe. actually screw all that, I'd be a beatnik poet.
it took me almost 15 years to find a practice i don't hate. i have a specialized commercial RE practice. mainly i like not going to court, having VERY limited number of clients, and being able to practice remotely from anywhere in the world. it also crosses over into other business interests i have.
those general aspects are what i can recommend trying to focus on, rather than the actual substance, unless there is just something you love. I love intellectual property, constitutional law and jurisprudence/legal philosophy, but other than some IP, i don't really do a lot of those things because i don't want to work that hard to get into them professionally--rather just leave as hobbies and incorporate them into other aspects of life--writing and business.
i couldn't imagine coming out of law school right now. i would study a little harder (I did well but not very top), actually do the joint grad school degree i started but dropped the masters immediately, get a PhD, and then teach/do policy work. maybe. actually screw all that, I'd be a beatnik poet.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:37 pm to TheOcean
My sister is an attorney, she says she would practice on this one:
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:38 pm to McLemore
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i have a specialized commercial RE practice.
How did your practice fair during the crash?
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:40 pm to McLemore
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I don't like dealing with people
Hell is other people. Thanks for the insights, I've always been interested in RE and I think I might have to look into that.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:45 pm to TheOcean
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How did your practice fair during the crash?
i was busy with the fallout and restructuring type work for 7 years. not the sexiest stuff, but paid the bills.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:46 pm to stringer_bell
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Hell is other people
yeah, i talk to clients and the occasional call with counsel on deals, but it's mostly email. I work from home so no office bs. just have to learn to deal with the cabin fever.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:47 pm to McLemore
Can it be a somewhat lucrative area of law?
And appreciate the input
And appreciate the input
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