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OT Civil/Structural Engineers: Do you have an Excel Spreadsheet of beam sizes?
Posted on 3/27/15 at 9:44 am
Posted on 3/27/15 at 9:44 am
I currently have one (I'm a draftsman/detailer), and I have been recently told that it is out of date.
to kind of get an idea of what i'm talking about, here's an image of what i currently have. don't mind the date at the top, it updates every time you open it.
to kind of get an idea of what i'm talking about, here's an image of what i currently have. don't mind the date at the top, it updates every time you open it.
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 9:46 am to finchmeister08
Out of date? Did they change standard beam sizes? Sounds like you are dealing with stupid engineers. I personally like the older methods. These new programs need constant updating, and they change the interface to charge you more. Pisses me off.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 9:47 am to finchmeister08
Posted on 3/27/15 at 9:52 am to finchmeister08
just thinking about steel design makes me glad i dont do structural work
Posted on 3/27/15 at 9:54 am to icegator337
Why? The hardest part in design is knowing which face to calculate the area on. After that, it is plug and chug. Don't forget to add a 1/16 th lol.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 9:55 am
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:00 am to finchmeister08
If you don't have one of these, you're sucking hind tit.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 10:02 am
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:02 am to Godfather1
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If you don't have one of these, you're sucking hind tit.
Way to post an out of date manual in a thread where the OP is saying his shite is out of date.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:02 am to AUCE05
I remember there being more than that, but I'll take roads, drainage, sewer, water treatment, and coastal protection/restoration over it anyday
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:06 am to CSB
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Way to post an out of date manual in a thread where the OP is saying his shite is out of date.
If he's a detailer/designer, he'll be just fine with that book.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 10:07 am
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:06 am to CSB
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Way to post an out of date manual
Manula might be out of date for the actual design, but for what he's using it for, detailing, its fine.
Unless that spreadsheet is based on information from about pre-1970, the beam data is probably still 99.999% correct. As someone mentioned, they're STANDARD shapes. No steel mill is going to make changes very often at all.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:13 am to finchmeister08
Look into Al's Steel Mill for AutoCAD. Automatically draws all standard beam sizes.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:14 am to Boudreaux35
Exactly, as long as he's dealing with (for example) W sections rather than WF sections he's good.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:16 am to Godfather1
Might want to update your manual there 
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. Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:24 am to Godfather1
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If he's a detailer/designer, he'll be just fine with that book.
I'm not debating that fact. However, he is specifically asking for the most up to date database available which I provided above.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:26 am to NYNolaguy1
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Might want to update your manual there .
frick that manual.
Bunch of dudes sitting around with pocket protectors and propeller hats on figuring out ways to over-complicate everything.
I'd also like to know how that spreadsheet is out of date as well.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 10:29 am
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:27 am to finchmeister08
Why don't you use the steel design manual
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:35 am to NYNolaguy1
For general beam details and properties, I still use:
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:40 am to Boudreaux35
Most of the older guys in my office still use it. I use the 14th additional almost everyday at work. The big advantage I found in using the 14th edition over previous ones is chapter 16- which spells out what to check for based on section shape- rather than trying to guess.
Also we use LRFD quite a lot because of AASHTO, so the ASD manual can't help you there.
Also we use LRFD quite a lot because of AASHTO, so the ASD manual can't help you there.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:46 am to eng08
It's easier to navigate an excel spreadsheet. For me at least.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:47 am to Boudreaux35
love the green book. It is my go to steel book
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