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Non-Violent Offenders - Sentence or X years Military Service
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:16 pm
So I was duped into watching Atonement this week, and to not spoil the plot, a major British character is accused of raping a girl and is convicted and sent to prison. Fast forward to the start of WWII, and he is granted a choice to fight in the war or continue his sentence.
This got me thinking, why isn't there a similar program available during peace time in the USA? Offer non-violent offenders (drug charges, DUI, etc) an option to serve 4-6 years in the military and get out with a clean record, or serve your sentence. To me, you get them into a structured program and make them fit for life back at home when their time is up. From a high level view, it seems like it might solve a lot of problems like overcrowded prisons, repeat offenders, etc.
Aside from their lack of respect for rules, which the military generally takes care of, what would be some possible drawbacks of this?
This got me thinking, why isn't there a similar program available during peace time in the USA? Offer non-violent offenders (drug charges, DUI, etc) an option to serve 4-6 years in the military and get out with a clean record, or serve your sentence. To me, you get them into a structured program and make them fit for life back at home when their time is up. From a high level view, it seems like it might solve a lot of problems like overcrowded prisons, repeat offenders, etc.
Aside from their lack of respect for rules, which the military generally takes care of, what would be some possible drawbacks of this?
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:18 pm to 1MileTiger
How long are these sentences? Less than a year in jail or 6 years of military service?
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:19 pm to 1MileTiger
Sorry to burst your civilian bubble brother, but I've learned/seen way more bad crap while serving in the military. It doesn't make you more discipline, just smarter on how to get away with crap.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:19 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Let's say 4 years service commitment for sentences of 4+ years. They get paid and learn some skillsets.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:22 pm to 1MileTiger
It makes sense for meat-grinder wars like WWII. It doesn't make sense for a professional, all volunteer military like the US now has.
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:24 pm to 1MileTiger
So if one of these folks were to be killed in action, it's basically a death sentence for smoking some pot. Sounds fair.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:26 pm to 1MileTiger
That seems like a horrible idea to me. I would think the military would want to have people who want to be there.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:26 pm to Hog on the Hill
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It doesn't make sense for a professional, all volunteer military like the US now has.
Pretty much. I don't want to serve alongside guys that don't want to be there.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:26 pm to 1MileTiger
Because we don't need anymore people in the military that don't want to be there, but don't have the integrity to quit or just want benefits... Seriously.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:26 pm to 1MileTiger
They should use them for suicide missions... like The Dirty Dozen.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:32 pm to 1MileTiger
Well, as a Platoon Leader, I can tell you I've got enough to worry about. I'll pass on having to control half a platoon worth of "non-violent" criminals.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:34 pm to unbeWEAVEable
Valid points. I concede.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:36 pm to LSUIZSEC
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Sorry to burst your civilian bubble brother, but I've learned/seen way more bad crap while serving in the military. It doesn't make you more discipline, just smarter on how to get away with crap.
I was shocked when some servicemen told me the shite they did everyday and got away with. A nice guy told me he drank every day when on duty so much so that he was told if he didn't stop immediate, he'd be dead from liver failure within months. Luckily he did.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:41 pm to athenslife101
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I was shocked when some servicemen told me the shite they did everyday and got away with. A nice guy told me he drank every day when on duty so much so that he was told if he didn't stop immediate, he'd be dead from liver failure within months. Luckily he did.
We got away with a lot of crazy shite in garrison. I just considered it a trade off for the suck that is deployments.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:46 pm to 1MileTiger
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Atonement
great movie...and to answer the question...I know a few dudes enlisted because they had some trouble back home...some of the best guys I served with, so yeah it can be good...but I don't think it should be mandated...these guys had judges who gave them an option on case by case basis...oh and...
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:01 pm to 1MileTiger
Judges used this in the late 90's. I served with a few folks who where in to avoid convictions and punishment.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:03 pm to 1MileTiger
Ive seen many situations where 18-20 yr olds are arrested for thefts, drugs, or DWIs and then went to the DA saying they were joining the military and needed help on their charge. It worked
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:55 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Well, maybe this was the actual truth with my fellas also.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 4:07 pm to 1MileTiger
Sorry man but very bad idea.
The last thing the military needs is more dirt bags.
Also, would you want to back to back in a trench with a guy who was "forced" to be there?
The last thing the military needs is more dirt bags.
Also, would you want to back to back in a trench with a guy who was "forced" to be there?
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