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Nola DA Leon Cannizzaro is a crooked piece of shite
Posted on 3/18/16 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 3/18/16 at 5:44 pm
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Posted on 3/18/16 at 5:46 pm to Maverick01
Feb 23 article has caused you outrage?
Are you aware that there are 430 pretrial inmates being housed in various parishes around the state because they don't fit in Orleans Parish?
That seems like a much better solution than having a jail that fits the amount of people arrested for crime in New Orleans.
Are you aware that there are 430 pretrial inmates being housed in various parishes around the state because they don't fit in Orleans Parish?
That seems like a much better solution than having a jail that fits the amount of people arrested for crime in New Orleans.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 5:52 pm to Maverick01
The Pope is Catholic
Posted on 3/18/16 at 5:52 pm to tLSU
This guy has made it his mission to increase the incarceration rate to a staggering percentage. I'm willing to believe there is an obvious financial and political incentive for him to do so. Don't even get me started on his stance on weed or his shady dealings with Harrah's casino.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 5:52 pm to Maverick01
every DA is a piece of shite
Posted on 3/18/16 at 5:53 pm to Carson123987
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every DA is a piece of shite
I disagree. But Leon certainly is.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 5:53 pm to Maverick01
The incarceration rate in Orleans Parish has plummeted. The crime rate has not.
I'll ask again, do you think that it's better for people arrested and awaiting trial in Orleans Parish to be housed several hours away in different parishes?
I'll ask again, do you think that it's better for people arrested and awaiting trial in Orleans Parish to be housed several hours away in different parishes?
Posted on 3/18/16 at 5:54 pm to Carson123987
I'm convinced one cannot rise to prominent political heights in New Orleans, Louisiana UNLESS they are a crooked piece of shite. It's sad but true, indeed.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:01 pm to Maverick01
You're pissed because he wants to have room for the criminals?
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:02 pm to tLSU
In Louisiana, the Courthouse Gang (Sherrif, Assessor and the District Attorney) will always be the most influential people in each Parish of Louisiana. Mitch the Bitch can whine all he wants, but in NOLA (where they used to have 7 Assessor's, diluting the third member of the Courthouse Gang in Orleans' power), he's got two of the wrong cats on the opposite side of the issue for him.
But acting like this is some revelatory, hard-hitting wake-up call about the DA is a joke. The tried-and-true, law-and-order, above-taking-a-taste types in Louisiana amongst the Courthouse Gangs on the Parish level are way too few and far between. There's just too much power to be able to wield not to attract opportunity to get your hands dirty.
It's like saying water is wet...
But acting like this is some revelatory, hard-hitting wake-up call about the DA is a joke. The tried-and-true, law-and-order, above-taking-a-taste types in Louisiana amongst the Courthouse Gangs on the Parish level are way too few and far between. There's just too much power to be able to wield not to attract opportunity to get your hands dirty.
It's like saying water is wet...
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:06 pm to Mr.Perfect
Part of the outrage comes from the myth that OPP is loaded with non-violent marijuana users. This myth has gone so far as to cause the Council to waste an inordinate amount of time debating and passing ordinances related to marijuana arrests. Meanwhile, on the date the ordinance passed, there was not even a single person in the jail arrested by police on just a simple possession of marijuana.
At some point, folks are going to have to realize that the way to reduce your incarceration rate is not "build a smaller jail." The City Council imposed a bed cap which was not based on any logic or reason, and now we see the result. Over 400 people being housed in north Louisiana and having to travel on an 8 hour round trip to appear in Criminal District Court.
When you wake up and check the news, is "man, the problem in this city is that the jail is too damn big" the first thing that pops into your mind?
Instead of going at this on the front end, by improving the public school system, creating programs for children to focus their attention on positive things, and targeting the absolute failure that is the juvenile justice system (the prime opportunity to change a kid), the City has taken the crazy path of trying to reduce the jail population by affecting the step after one is arrested.
At some point, folks are going to have to realize that the way to reduce your incarceration rate is not "build a smaller jail." The City Council imposed a bed cap which was not based on any logic or reason, and now we see the result. Over 400 people being housed in north Louisiana and having to travel on an 8 hour round trip to appear in Criminal District Court.
When you wake up and check the news, is "man, the problem in this city is that the jail is too damn big" the first thing that pops into your mind?
Instead of going at this on the front end, by improving the public school system, creating programs for children to focus their attention on positive things, and targeting the absolute failure that is the juvenile justice system (the prime opportunity to change a kid), the City has taken the crazy path of trying to reduce the jail population by affecting the step after one is arrested.
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:06 pm to Maverick01
you don't have a single fricking clue what you are talking about, nor what you are outraged about. best advice I can give you is choose another topic
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:07 pm to tLSU
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The incarceration rate in Orleans Parish has plummeted. The crime rate has not.
I think you need to do your research when it comes to incarceration rates in Orleans Parish, and historically why they've been so high, along with the reason the rate has declined. Dealing with inmate capacity is hardly the only motivation for jail expansion. There is big money in putting people behind bars.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:09 pm to Maverick01
How do you possibly come to that conclusion from that article? You do realize the jail used to house over 7,000 before Katrina and that it's now down to 1,400?
( side point -> While it's probably bad correctional policy to house DOC inmates at local jails, you can easily understand the fiduciary reasons, right?)
I think that Cannizzarro is in a better position to know what is happening as far as Pretrial detainees being released for overcrowding reasons with no consideration for public safety, than does Susan Guidry, or Mitch Landrieu, who's roles are to placate Democratic voters and redirect city funds away from the jail towards pet projects, social programs, and graft.
The DA does not hold the purse strings, the Mayor and City Counsel do. How is Cannizzarro profiting from more inmates?
( side point -> While it's probably bad correctional policy to house DOC inmates at local jails, you can easily understand the fiduciary reasons, right?)
I think that Cannizzarro is in a better position to know what is happening as far as Pretrial detainees being released for overcrowding reasons with no consideration for public safety, than does Susan Guidry, or Mitch Landrieu, who's roles are to placate Democratic voters and redirect city funds away from the jail towards pet projects, social programs, and graft.
The DA does not hold the purse strings, the Mayor and City Counsel do. How is Cannizzarro profiting from more inmates?
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:11 pm to Maverick01
most DAs are
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:12 pm to tLSU
Many people on this board believe that all jails are full of harmless potheads.
Yes, some numbnuts might get finally sent to the big house after his fourth felony possession bust, but that is by far the exception, not the rule.
Yes, some numbnuts might get finally sent to the big house after his fourth felony possession bust, but that is by far the exception, not the rule.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:13 pm to Maverick01
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I think you need to do your research when it comes to incarceration rates in Orleans Parish, and historically why they've been so high, along with the reason the rate has declined. Dealing with inmate capacity is hardly the only motivation for jail expansion. There is big money in putting people behind bars.
I probably know more than anyone on this board about why incarceration rates were what they were, are what they are, and where they're going. If you knew the actual reason that incarceration rates declined, you'd know that once the NOPD is adequately staffed and can proactively patrol instead of running code all night, the arrest rate will increase tremendously. Then, we'll have 1,000 out of parish and people wondering what the hell happened.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:15 pm to Carson123987
quote:Not true. While a lot of them are, and are all about the money and conviction totals, some are actively trying to solve perpetual problems. A few work with national figures that constantly study crime and incarceration, and try to come up with solutions to major crimes.
every DA is a piece of shite
Take a the criminal justice course at LSU to understand some of the process. I don't feel like explaining it all, but you've got to give a few people hall passes to keep order. Arresting everyone for every crime obviously doesn't work. Basically forward vs backward thinking.
quote:Sell off the actual felony prisoners to other prisons and keep the misdemeanor guys and people waiting for trial. You've also got to take a look at your drug policies and conditions for release (getting a job or doing community service). Problem solved
I'll ask again, do you think that it's better for people arrested and awaiting trial in Orleans Parish to be housed several hours away in different parishes?
I'll run for DA if you vote for me. What amount of arrests is too much to become DA?
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:15 pm to Maverick01
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Dealing with inmate capacity is hardly the only motivation for jail expansion. There is big money in putting people behind bar's
This is a distortion and lie.
Please explain to me how the people who determine who goes to jail are profiting from jailing those people. Judges? the DA? Cops? None of those receive one extra dime.
Local Sheriff's - okay, depending on the financial arrangements. But in Orleans Parish, the Sheriff has little to no power over who is sent to jail or how long they are kept there.
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