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News from my profession: The future of the online degree

Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted by anc
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:21 pm
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Fully online students will pay as little as $35,400 for a degree -- only a little more than a year's tuition at Lynn for education in person. For that price, Lynn will ship the students an iPad mini, which they will use to access the digital course content; file assignments; and interact with classmates.


The article also states that the University of Florida has about 1,000 fully online students - but only 22 are traditional 18-22 year olds. I still think we are decades away from high school graduates clamoring to go to online college, but if schools adopt Lynn's model of offering a full degree for less than the cost of one year of residence college - that might change.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
7122 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:23 pm to
Nothing will replace the college experience.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:24 pm to
I can see some degrees being able to offer full degrees without losing anything from being in a traditional classroom, but what about science and engineering labs? Can't simulate that from online lectures.
Posted by Zantrix
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2009
7940 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:25 pm to
I'm still debating whether to go the online route or back to Hammond for mine. I missed enrollment for the Spring, so I mind up going through Northwestern's online program instead. I have little desire to commute to college after working 40 hrs/week, the online route is mighty appealing to the non-traditional student (old farts).
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
17995 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:25 pm to
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Nothing will replace the college experience.



I agree.

But consider all the students loading up with $50k in debt for the college experience. If they can get an online degree for half that, would it change a significant number of minds.

Online tuition is typically as much or even more than resident tuition at many schools. This from Lynn is an innovative pricing method. $35k is less than tuition at state schools over four years.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:27 pm to
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University of Florida has about 1,000 fully online students - but only 22 are traditional 18-22 year olds


It's always going to be heavy on the non-traditional side.

Everything that the 20yr old me wouldn't like about an online college experience, the 37yr old me values highly.

Including cost. At 20, I could give a frick how much my parents paid for my schooling.

ETA: And most kids don't care about the debt they're racking up either.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43058 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:27 pm to
It's big business, even real universities are starting to tap into the market. Online degrees are still bogus imo.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
17995 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:29 pm to
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It's big business, even real universities are starting to tap into the market. Online degrees are still bogus imo.



Some are definitely bogus, and that stigma will be hard to replace. But more larger universities are jumping into the online game, and the quality is improving greatly.

The difference between an MBA from LSU and an online MBA from LSU, for example, isn't as great as it is to an online MBA from DeVry.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:29 pm to
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the online route is mighty appealing to the non-traditional student (old farts).


It's worth it to save the commuting/being on campus time.

You have to be disciplined to go it on your own though but its much better imo.(for old farts)
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3789 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:30 pm to
Online can be great for many majors, but not all. If they have a physical campus, and can incorporate some time there into the degree, ie. labs, projects, presentations, etc. then it can be very valuable. I know people who've done engineering online, but it requires lab time and a few weeks at a time on campus.

All your base core classes, math, English, chemistry, history can all be done online. Honestly no reason for students to not use this method to knock them out. As long as major universities will accept them.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24345 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:30 pm to
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Nothing will replace the college experience.


Of course nothing will but those over 30 that would like to earn a degree will have options.
Posted by LigerFan
Member since Jan 2014
2711 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:34 pm to
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Nothing will replace the college experience.


Can't f b's on the reg like you can in college. Get it while you can.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19672 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:42 pm to
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but what about science and engineering labs?


Arizona state offers online electrical engineering and software engineering degrees.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15220 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:55 pm to
Bama has 3,000+ fully online students - 10% of the student body.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10960 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:56 pm to
Online education is just plain stupid.

Might just as well have degree programs in Conspiracy Theory Chat and Blog Philosophy.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:58 pm to
College has nothing to do with class and/or coursework
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63192 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:58 pm to
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Online degrees are still bogus imo.


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The difference between an MBA from LSU and an online MBA from LSU, for example, isn't as great as it is to an online MBA from DeVry.


Exactly. It's amazing how many of these threads we've had on here and people still don't know the difference between for-profit online schools and traditional public/private online schools.
Posted by GumbeauxGuy
Kingwood
Member since Sep 2003
388 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:04 pm to
I've returned to school after a long absence. The way I break it down is this; if its a quantitive class, math, accounting, Stats, they are taken in class the traditional way. All of the Lit, History, Gov't classes that are just reading, taking notes and writing papers, those are taken on line. Right now the online classes are more expensive than the traditional classes, by about 100 dollars per class. The online classes alow me the time to maintain my full time status and finish my 4 year degree in 4 years. (Graduate May 2016)
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8961 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:07 pm to
I think online education has a place and its specifically in undergrad.

I've met some online MBA's from schools like UF and others. Even UF's own alum will be the first to tell you that the difference in knowledge, application and presentation skills are night and day between the traditional and online MBA graduates.

To me if you want a graduate level degree it should be in a brick & mortar situation.

This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16876 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:47 pm to
I'm all for online degrees, but some degrees shouldn't be online.
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