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Napoleon down to 2 lanes? This is nuts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:04 am
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:04 am
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Apparently the neighbors are up in arms about the neutral ground being reduced. Oh also the freaking Carnival krewes.
Removing the second traffic lane would be a disaster. If they are so worried about protecting the neutral ground, how about removing the parking lane? (which they should also do on St Charles). It makes no sense for this city to devote so much space on major arteries to cars that are not moving.
Apparently the neighbors are up in arms about the neutral ground being reduced. Oh also the freaking Carnival krewes.
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The plan was also criticized by the captain of Krewe of Muses, whose parade, like many others Uptown, runs along Napoleon.
Removing the second traffic lane would be a disaster. If they are so worried about protecting the neutral ground, how about removing the parking lane? (which they should also do on St Charles). It makes no sense for this city to devote so much space on major arteries to cars that are not moving.
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:05 am to Cold Cous Cous
We should just get rid of roads altogether.
Just get where we want to go on good vibes, rainbows and unicorns.
Just get where we want to go on good vibes, rainbows and unicorns.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:06 am to Cold Cous Cous
Does Napoleon really need two travel lanes in each direction along the parade route?
ETA: Seriously asking, DOTD's traffic counts don't have a station there.
ETA: Seriously asking, DOTD's traffic counts don't have a station there.
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 10:08 am
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:06 am to Cold Cous Cous
Napoleon is already 2 lanes. Removing a lane would make it 1 lane. Which is fricking insane.
And frick removing the parking lane. It has been removed for months now and it is making life hell for those if us who live on Napoleon
And frick removing the parking lane. It has been removed for months now and it is making life hell for those if us who live on Napoleon
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:07 am to LNCHBOX
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Does Napoleon really need two travel lanes in each direction along the parade route?
Yes it does. With the current construction, it is down to only 1 lane and the traffic is beyond ridiculous. It needs both lanes.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:09 am to Breesus
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Yes it does. With the current construction, it is down to only 1 lane and the traffic is beyond ridiculous.
Well you have to factor in the absolutely shite conditions at the moment, and lane shifts etc. That plays a huge part in the traffic.
quote:I'm not sold on it until numbers dictate that.
It needs both lanes.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:10 am to Cold Cous Cous
quote:because their comment means so much. they use that area for 6 hours a year, and they get to have a valued opinion? i scoff at such a notion
The plan was also criticized by the captain of Krewe of Muses, whose parade, like many others Uptown, runs along Napoleon.
removing the parking lane makes most sense, imnsho
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:11 am to LNCHBOX
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I'm not sold on it until numbers dictate that.
How often do you drive on Napoleon out of curiosity?
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:11 am to Rouge
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removing the parking lane makes most sense, imnsho
No. Just no. I hate not having a place to park.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:12 am to Breesus
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How often do you drive on Napoleon out of curiosity?
Usually 3 times a week. Maybe more depending on work.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:13 am to Rouge
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removing the parking lane makes most sense, imnsho
That will never happen.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:14 am to LNCHBOX
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Usually 3 times a week. Maybe more depending on work.
I can't belive you do that and think it would be ok as one lane dude. Come on.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:15 am to LNCHBOX
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Does Napoleon really need two travel lanes in each direction along the parade route?
Yes
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:16 am to Breesus
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I can't belive you do that and think it would be ok as one lane dude. Come on.
From the river to St Charles? I'm not saying all of Napoleon.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:28 am to Breesus
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No. Just no. I hate not having a place to park.
So buy a house with a driveway. Public streets shouldn't be treated as private parking lots - their primary purpose is moving people through.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:29 am to LNCHBOX
And now that I've dug a little deeper into the traffic count site. I have some numbers that I think support the idea that Napoleon doesn't need two lanes.
Napoleon just north of St Charles: 20087
ST Charles west of Jefferson: 19303
Napoleon will lose a good chunk of that ADT to St Charles, so you're talking about less traffic that what is on St Charles in a section that is already one travel lane. In my opinion the only time traffic is backed up on that area of St Charles is end of school day type hours, where congestion is to be expected. Napoleon doesn't have two colleges to worry about in the section we're discussing.
Going just that information, I don't see any glaring reasons why Napoleon needs to be two lanes from the river to St Charles. You could easily have a dedicated turn lanes at the intersection to alleviate congestion for through traffic, and minimize neutral ground impacts. I'm sure there is better information to go off of, but for now I don't think two lanes are necessary.
Napoleon just north of St Charles: 20087
ST Charles west of Jefferson: 19303
Napoleon will lose a good chunk of that ADT to St Charles, so you're talking about less traffic that what is on St Charles in a section that is already one travel lane. In my opinion the only time traffic is backed up on that area of St Charles is end of school day type hours, where congestion is to be expected. Napoleon doesn't have two colleges to worry about in the section we're discussing.
Going just that information, I don't see any glaring reasons why Napoleon needs to be two lanes from the river to St Charles. You could easily have a dedicated turn lanes at the intersection to alleviate congestion for through traffic, and minimize neutral ground impacts. I'm sure there is better information to go off of, but for now I don't think two lanes are necessary.
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 11:18 am
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:31 am to Cold Cous Cous
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So buy a house with a driveway. Public streets shouldn't be treated as private parking lots - their primary purpose is moving people through.
And eliminating street parking will eliminate the shoulder, then any time someone breaks down or there is an accident you'll piss and moan that they are completely blocking the street and shut down traffic in the area.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:31 am to LNCHBOX
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From the river to St Charles? I'm not saying all of Napoleon.
Oh. In that case, I agree.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:33 am to Cold Cous Cous
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So buy a house with a driveway.
I have one.
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Public streets shouldn't be treated as private parking lots
It's not a parking lot. It has a parking lane.
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their primary purpose is moving people through.
So by your logic no one should park on any street?
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:33 am to Cold Cous Cous
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So buy a house with a driveway. Public streets shouldn't be treated as private parking lots - their primary purpose is moving people through.
Clearly you are not from here. It's not real easy to just buy a house with a driveway here, this isn't Prairieville bro. The parking lane ain't going anywhere, that's not even on the table.
You know what's going to happen? It's going to be like Baronne downtown where they paint a bike lane and drivers ignore it and use it as a traffic lane because there's zero enforcement. I live right off of Napoleon and see this just about every day downtown
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