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My thoughts on the Confederate Monument Removal's and "flyover country" argument
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:04 pm
Equips down-vote shield and puts on racism resistant body armor.
TLDR I do not care about your statues or other CSA symbols. In my experience, the majority of people who cling the hardest to these things are those who don't have much going on for them in modern life.
I do care about how you treat others legally and professionally.
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I believe that there is a portion of the Southern population that truly believes in the "Heritage not Hate" school of thought for Southern Heritage.
The primary reason the Confederate flag comes under fire today ironically has little to do with its original meaning or even the original grievances post Civil War.
The way Reconstruction was handled led to obvious grievances after the Civil War. That is what originally caused the resentment along with the large amounts of damages never fully recovered.
But the big reason the flag (and subsequently the statues) get so much flack is due to their use in the anti-Civil Rights movement during the 50s to late 60s. It was the subsequent terrorism to Blacks (lets call it for what is) that ultimately sparked more discontent.
Fact is, just like "nobody today experienced slavery". It can be argued that "nobody today experienced Reconstruction". And their are enough people today who experienced and implemented Jim Crow if we go down that rabbit hole.
As for "Nobody cares about my small county". This is the fate of most low population areas in any Western country.
1) How much money and resources does your region provide for the US
2) Does your area provide sufficient labor force to meet the countries needs in professions/trades/ and other occupations deemed "essential" by the US
3) How much federal money do you use overall as opposed to much you contribute to the federal government. And what political leverage do you have that is not easily replaceable
I think I have made my point. Personally, I prefer the lifestyle of a bigger city. I see small villages as too obstinate to change (even if the that change is morally correct or simply in their best economic interest).
Every person has a right to have their voice heard. At the end of day, our political system is not about "heritage" as much as it is about money and influence.
TLDR I do not care about your statues or other CSA symbols. In my experience, the majority of people who cling the hardest to these things are those who don't have much going on for them in modern life.
I do care about how you treat others legally and professionally.
--------------------------------------------------
I believe that there is a portion of the Southern population that truly believes in the "Heritage not Hate" school of thought for Southern Heritage.
The primary reason the Confederate flag comes under fire today ironically has little to do with its original meaning or even the original grievances post Civil War.
The way Reconstruction was handled led to obvious grievances after the Civil War. That is what originally caused the resentment along with the large amounts of damages never fully recovered.
But the big reason the flag (and subsequently the statues) get so much flack is due to their use in the anti-Civil Rights movement during the 50s to late 60s. It was the subsequent terrorism to Blacks (lets call it for what is) that ultimately sparked more discontent.
Fact is, just like "nobody today experienced slavery". It can be argued that "nobody today experienced Reconstruction". And their are enough people today who experienced and implemented Jim Crow if we go down that rabbit hole.
As for "Nobody cares about my small county". This is the fate of most low population areas in any Western country.
1) How much money and resources does your region provide for the US
2) Does your area provide sufficient labor force to meet the countries needs in professions/trades/ and other occupations deemed "essential" by the US
3) How much federal money do you use overall as opposed to much you contribute to the federal government. And what political leverage do you have that is not easily replaceable
I think I have made my point. Personally, I prefer the lifestyle of a bigger city. I see small villages as too obstinate to change (even if the that change is morally correct or simply in their best economic interest).
Every person has a right to have their voice heard. At the end of day, our political system is not about "heritage" as much as it is about money and influence.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 12:10 pm
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:05 pm to volod
quote:
TLDR
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:06 pm to volod
quote:My thought on your thoughts is that you're given to predictable, ignorant generalizations.
the majority of people who cling the hardest to these things are those who don't have much going on for them in modern life.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:07 pm to MorbidTheClown
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TVDR
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:07 pm to volod
Who gives a frick?
I don't care what my State contributes to your collectivism
I don't care what my State contributes to your collectivism
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:07 pm to volod
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:10 pm to volod
quote:
the majority of people who cling the hardest to these things are those who don't have much going on for them in modern life.
Or maybe they just liked the aesthetic landscape of their towns/cities and think old statues that nobody in years ever really gave two thoughts over WHO they actually depicted, looked better than scarred concrete empty pedestals scattered about everywhere though the town/city.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:12 pm to terd ferguson
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TVDVR
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:13 pm to volod
Downvote number 7.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:14 pm to volod
You need to start a podcast.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:15 pm to volod
quote:
see small villages as too obstinate to change (even if the that change is morally correct or simply in their best economic interest).
That's right out of the progressive handbook, man
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:19 pm to volod
Between you and Rebeloke I have a hard time deciding which one is the biggest loser on this board.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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That's right out of the progressive handbook, man
The difference between me and an assertive progressive is my intentions.
Notice I didn't say "change because I said you should" or that you should change "because the powerful corporations want you to"
I said change due to your own economic interests. I have seen towns financially decimated because they let their one industry (paper mill, oil and gas, etc.) leave.
As for morality, smaller towns are supposed to be more religious per their own directive. Part of being more godly is in how you treat others and cherishing all life. You know WWJD
I am not attacking anyone with that comment. If anything, I am saying to look after yourself better.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:47 pm to volod
Pro-monument people would probably gladly let you sledgehammer every statue and rename every town, street, and school if it'd actually make a difference. But it won't affect the appalling statistics of high school dropout rate, fatherless households, or violent crime in the black community. So why bother. Vast swaths of prime real estate in almost every city are third world but you'll keep fussing about statues and oppression and whatnot without ever acknowledging the real problems. Eventually I assume it'll be about financial reparations Bc I don't see any other endgame.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:02 pm to volod
What in the frick man
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:07 pm to volod
your avy could not save you from down vote this time...
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:09 pm to volod
quote:
Personally, I prefer the lifestyle of a bigger city.
reps Leesville in his avy....
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:12 pm to volod
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have seen towns financially decimated because they let their one industry (paper mill, oil and gas, etc.) leave.
very flawed in your observations
you have a poor understanding of the real world
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:14 pm to SthGADawg
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quote:
Personally, I prefer the lifestyle of a bigger city.
reps Leesville in his avy....
Dude's all uppity on the country folk in Anacoco.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:17 pm to volod
quote:
1) How much money and resources do you and your community provide for the US?
2) Does your area provide sufficient labor force to meet the countries needs in professions/trades/ and other occupations deemed "essential" by the US
3) How much federal money do you use overall as opposed to much you contribute to the federal government. And what political leverage do you have that is not easily replaceable
I bet that ironic little nugget of hypocrisy went over your head.
The filmed answers to these three questions asked into a mirror by the majority of the #blm movement and the patrons of North Baton Rouge and most inner city blighted communities would certainly be interesting.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 1:20 pm
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