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It's also the main driving force in the exploding costs of healthcare. People think they should always feel great and never be sick. The slightest discomfort, fatigue, depression or bad day sends them to our offices asking for a pill to fix it.

yeah. people don't realize that antibiotics aren't infinite and resistance is developed with them

and a society over relying on them just means bacteria will mutate into super bacteria (which it is doing)

as a person who is/was (haven't tried recently) allergic to penicillin, i'm scared of this stuff b/c my options are already limited somewhat. i get so pissed when i have a cold or the flu and people tell me to go get antibiotics or a zpac


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don't think that's a variable in the DSM

According to DSM, the symptoms must interfere with the persons ability to function normally whether it be in school, work, behavior etc. "Normal" is a vague term so each person must be evaluated normally. Symptoms alone do not make the diagnosis. Non-medical treatment is the first step. I think too many parents want treatment for insignificant issues and want straight A's outta kids that just aren't that smart. It's gotten worse since drug companies have been able to advertise to consumers. If people want the med, someone will give it too them.


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According to DSM, the symptoms must interfere with the persons ability to function normally whether it be in school, work, behavior etc.

yeah but that's all relative

some people can have an effect in their functioning and still make good grades or function, b/c they're blessed with intellectual gifts

let's say you have a kid who is going to make a 100, but on meds it takes him 5 minutes and off meds it takes him 10 minutes. that's a serious impact on his functioning, but he still makes the 100



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bacteria will mutate into super bacteria (which it is doing)
not disagreeing but I'd like to see a link to some proof that bacteria is mutating into super bacteria


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but I'd like to see a link to some proof that bacteria is mutating into super bacteria


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Also, FYI, a new mutation that makes bacteria resistant to pretty much every antibiotic known to man has become increasingly prevalent on the Indian subcontinent and has made the leap to both the UK and the United States, according to a new report in the Lancet. Because there's nothing modern medical science can do to stop it, the NDM-1 "superbug" may spread globally. Anyhow, enjoy your Thursday.


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LarryDavid
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beat his arse until his nose bleeds


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SmackoverHawg
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yeah but that's all relative some people can have an effect in their functioning and still make good grades or function, b/c they're blessed with intellectual gifts let's say you have a kid who is going to make a 100, but on meds it takes him 5 minutes and off meds it takes him 10 minutes. that's a serious impact on his functioning, but he still makes the 100

It is very subjective. It is ultimately up to the physician/parents/patient to decide. I have my own set of criteria and if I decide to medicate someone, I insist on seeing some sort of measurable improvement. For instance, I would certainly not medicate the child in your example. Now a child that made consistently lower grades than would be expected and made 100's on medication, I would continue. I'm not talking about 93 up to 100. Significant improvement is also subjective.


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For instance, I would certainly not medicate the child in your example.

why? he's discriminated against b/c he's smart?


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In response to the antibiotic issue, the overuse in Europe, Asia, and India dwarfs our use of antibiotics. The resistent super bugs come here from overseas, so changing our habits will have virtually no effect on the emergence of these resistent bacteria. We could eliminate abx use in the US and there would be virtually no change in these patterns worldwide.


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i don't disagree. i was stating that as an absolute, and not regional, comment


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BuckeyeFan87
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So in essense, don't try to change, we're fricked anyway?

Great plan


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why? he's discriminated against b/c he's smart?

Because there is no significant impairment in his ability to function. Therefor, no diagnosis of ADD. It's attention deficit DISORDER. Many people have attention deficit symptoms, but function fine. Also, not everyone with ADD/ADHD requires medication. As I stated previously, behavioral modifications are first line treatment. The teachers also need to be eval'd and critiqued on how they handle these children, but this is virtually impossible to do.


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So in essense, don't try to change, we're fricked anyway? Great plan

Pretty much. The medical community has been promoting decrease antibiotic use here for decades. Yet, we still see an ever increasing number of resistent bugs. Just like with pollution, if there is not a global effort to prescribe and use these meds appropriately, this trend will continue despite what we do here. Public education is the key, but people are pussified and want meds for every little sniffle. You may be suprised to find out how many people self medicate with antibiotics they buy online or from vetenarian supply stores.


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there is a severe impairment though. it takes him twice as long to do his work at that level



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say something. it is still family.


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SmackoverHawg
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We can get longer testing times for these children if needing. Sorry, no pills.


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How is prescribing a 4 year old amphetamine considered responsible medical practice? I'm tempted to beat my brother's arse for even allowing it but at the end of the day it's not my decision.


Wow. Sounds like a tough situation for your brother and his family. It's times like this when they could probably use some support from their loved ones.

Based on your post, I would assume you have been intimately involved with raising your niece since birth. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask you a few questions.

I haven't seen much info on what your niece is being treated for other than ADHD. Was she diagnosed with anything else?

What kind of specialist have her parents taken her to?

Are they seeking further treatment/solutions?

As far as the doctors that have treated her, what have they discussed with the parents about their findings?

Do you know any details as to your nieces behavior issues?

Were you privy to any of the discussions between the parents and the daycare owner/administrators?



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I know a few friends with young kids that are very hyper. One had the doctor try to prescribe ADHD meds - the dad said hell no and went to a different doc. The new Doc suggested they cut out any foods with artificial dye and see if it made a difference. Holy crap did it. The kid went from fidgeting constantly to calm and attentive with no medication whatsoever. Another family tried the same with similair results. 3rd family did the medication and their kids a zombie. Cliffs - in young kids it may be a food dye allergy instead of ADHD, try adjusting diet before medication.



I couldn't agree more. Also, vision problems can have the some of the same symptoms in kids as ADHD. Make sure she has had her vision checked thoroughly.


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If you don't have a kid with ADHD then frick off and stop judging.

I have 2 kids. One has it and one doesn't. Nothing to do with parenting. I beat his ass, punished, stripped his room of every toy and game. Doesn't matter.

Put him on a low dose of meds. He is is now the smartest kid in the school, skipped a grade, aces every test. He is not a zombie... He won the little leauge championship.

So all those who have it figured out. frick off.


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ColdDuck


Don't get yourself worked up man. They don't mean any harm, they just don't realize how grossly ignorant they are about what it's like to raise a child with ADHD, mood disorders, bi-polar, etc.. They would feel pretty stupid about their post in this thread if they did.


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