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re: Missing Florida boys' boat found capsized

Posted on 7/29/15 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 4:43 pm to
I think they probably had trouble with the motor and took the cowling off and a wave hit them turning the boat over.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18830 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 4:43 pm to
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Were these boys old enough to operate a boat with or without an adult?

I don't think there is any requirement like that in La. Fla. may be different. I saw a kid driving a boat in Pierre Parte a few months ago. He looked to be barely over 10.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28897 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 4:44 pm to
14 years old in Florida.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53804 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 4:44 pm to
No age requirement in Florida!
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139779 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 4:46 pm to
You are right. The only requirement is that anyone born after 1988 must have taken a boater safety course and passed. Both apparently met this requirement.

I do expect this tragedy to create a new law ultimately.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139779 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 4:47 pm to
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There is no minimum age to operate a boat. However the personal watercraft regulations and boating safety requirements below are age specific and would apply.


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Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8274 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

I think they probably had trouble with the motor and took the cowling off and a wave hit them turning the boat over.


Very possible also. No sea anchor, nothing to put the bow into the waves and they get swamped from behind.
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
13902 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 5:35 pm to
Someone on my FB linked to an article "Two teens rescued after 6 days adrift." I was so happy, thrilled and excited. Once I started reading the article a few things didn't add up and then I saw the date was from 2005. Ugh! Misleading and disappointing.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 5:37 pm to
Yeah a couple people linked that same article here
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
66890 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 5:38 pm to
Somebody started a thread on here that got whacked
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124240 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 5:44 pm to
Are the boys alive?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139779 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 5:45 pm to
There is little hope of them being found alive at this point. Tomorrow will be 6 days without fresh water.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31052 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:07 pm to
I'm guessing that floating in the ocean and struggling in the sun does not likely put them toward the upper end of the 8-10 day range...

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After 3 days, you need water or you'll perish. You can make it 3 weeks without food, though we promise you that won't be fun.

Despite this possibly helpful rule, some people have survived 8 to 10 days without water. Again, leave such shenanigans to the truly desperate.
Posted by motionmagic
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Nov 2010
831 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:23 pm to
A new law. That's what we need, another law. Still won't prevent these things from happening.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47359 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

There is little hope of them being found alive at this point. Tomorrow will be 6 days without fresh water.




Yeah, the chances of even finding them at all are dropping dramatically. I don't think they ever found one or two folks who were lost in the Mobile regatta. At least one was never found and they were in the bay for the most part, though close to the Gulf.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 7:06 pm to
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The Gulf Stream is more jet than stream, a fluid train snaking along the Florida coast, sustaining sea life on its warm western edge and whisking away anything in its path, including a 19-foot boat and maybe two 14-year-old boys.

To find Austin Stephanos and Perry Cohen, who went missing Friday after a fateful fishing trip off Jupiter, the Gulf Stream is the yellow brick road leading searchers further north day-by-day as they look for breadcrumbs — a cooler, an engine cover, a life vest. By Tuesday, the 3- to 5-mph current could have carried the teens hundreds of miles into South Carolina.

The boat ended its journey upside down more than 60 miles east of Daytona Beach. But it’s more than just the swiftness of the current that ocean experts say must be considered. If the boys are floating on a makeshift raft, they would have a higher profile on the water, and be more subject to the whims of the winds blowing from the south and southwest.

“It’s very difficult to predict where they would be,” said Xiaobiao Xu, a research scientist for Florida State University’s Center for Ocean-Atmospheric Prediction Studies. “It the teenagers were very close to the coast, the current would be significantly slower.”

That’s one reason why Mitch Roffer, who has a Ph.D. in biological oceanography and owns the Melbourne-based Roff’s Ocean Fishing Forecasting Service, put out his own map Tuesday of where the teens may be. He said the western edge of the Gulf Stream was about a mile off the coast of Jupiter on Friday. His hope is that the boys got caught in an eddy that formed off Jacksonville, a counterclockwise swirl of water that would slow their movement north. “In theory, they would be moving 2 knots instead of 4,” said Roffer, who did his analysis after numerous requests from civilians who wanted to help in the search.

The Gulf Stream, part of the Great North Atlantic Gyre, is technically called the Florida Current before it hits Palm Beach County. The watery highway redistributes heat from the equatorial areas, shooting warm waters north as it follows the continental break. By Cape Hatteras, it starts off into the Atlantic.

“As it moves north, they could be getting carried much farther out to sea,” said Brian LaPointe, a researcher with Florida Atlantic University’s Harbor Branch Oceanographic Institute. “The search area would greatly expand.” As of Tuesday, the Coast Guard said it had covered more than 31,000 square nautical miles of ocean.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 7:12 pm to
I don't think they will ever be found.

Sucks.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19244 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 7:19 pm to
I operated an fiberglass boat with a 150 Merc on it from 12 yrs old till grown, wide arse open or fishing at all times. Night / day didn't matter, my dad started me at 8. I would pull out of our boat house and drive all over.

Of course that was on a lake.

This kid probably grew up running the boat and made a mistake, hopefully they will be found.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117678 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 7:20 pm to
I'm hopeful they make it, but you'd have to think they're gone.

Sad, but true.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54476 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 7:23 pm to
I hate to say it also but I think they are lost forever. Poor boys and their families
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