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Michigan Bottle Deposit Scam - Right out of Seinfeld

Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:47 am
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20214 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:47 am
In a memorable episode of Seinfeld, two characters hatch a plot: instead of returning bottles in New York for a 5-cent refund, round up a load of containers and run them to Michigan, where the return is double, at 10 cents each.

In reality, the ploy – returning bottles purchased outside of Michigan to capitalize on the refund – is illegal under the state’s bottle deposit law. And a Michigan resident is finding out just how steep the penalties could be.


Brian Everidge, who is accused of attempting to “return” more than 10,000 bottles from other states, faces up to five years in prison for one felony count of beverage return of non-refundable bottles.

The incident dates to late April, when a Michigan state trooper pulled over Everidge – who was driving a rented Budget box truck in Tyrone Township, Michigan, about 40 miles north-west of Detroit – for speeding.

The officer, Clifford Lyden, testified at a court hearing on Thursday that Everidge’s truck was filled with plastic bags holding thousands of aluminum cans.

“I don’t think you could have put another five or 10 cans in here,” Lyden said. “It was packed.”


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Posted by Anonymous95
Member since Sep 2014
2074 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:51 am to
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felony count of beverage return of non-refundable bottles.


This may be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9298 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:51 am to
Well I'm conflicted on this one.
On one hand he was recycling and trying to earn money.

On another he was breaking a state law, albeit an arguably dumb one and a victimless crime


Hilarious either wAy
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:51 am to
out of curiosity, why is that illegal?

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70851 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:52 am to
Stupid to make a criminal case out of it. The intention of the law was met (saving landfill space).

But I don't see how it's profitable. 5 cents per bottle x 10,000 bottles is $500. Take out the truck rental and the gasoline, and you get less than minimum wage from all the time you spent collecting, bagging, and transporting the cans.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6250 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:54 am to
Meanwhile,

we having running for president...
Posted by tigerzballzdeep
Rockwall, TX
Member since Jun 2007
3095 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:55 am to
Well, I believe these types of schemes aren't hatched by Rhodes scholars
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:55 am to
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out of curiosity, why is that illegal?


Because the purchaser is paying in less than what the state is paying out in the refund.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79110 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:56 am to
play stupid games, win stupid prizes

hope he gets prosecuted to the fullest extent.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20214 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:56 am to
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Take out the truck rental and the gasoline, and you get less than minimum wage from all the time you spent collecting, bagging, and transporting the cans


Newman had that all worked out years ago.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70851 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Newman had that all worked out years ago.



Newman!
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10561 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:58 am to
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On another he was breaking a state law, albeit an arguably dumb one and a victimless crime



It's not a victimless crime. If there is a $.10 refund, there was a $.10 charge. If they didn't come from that state, the recycling deposit balance would get out of whack. I'm not saying I agree with the deposit rules, but it's no different than scamming any other government agency.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

Newman had that all worked out years ago.




and on the mother of all greeting card holidays, Mothers DAy, we often see spillover into a FIFTH truck. And guess who signed up to be the driver?
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34979 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:02 pm to
He should have waited for the spillover mail truck on Mothers Day.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:11 pm to
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out of curiosity, why is that illegal?


Probably b/c Michigan legislators wanted to clean up Michigan, not New York and every other state.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11139 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:14 pm to
Meanwhile over in Ohio, a 20 yr college student was found murdered after disappearing while riding her bicycle. They arrested a man that served less than 3 years for a very similar crime. His other victim was able to escape. The criminal justice system is broken in this country. Felony for recycling a little steep. It could be considered fraud, but I bet the guy thought he found a legal loophole in the system.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
102972 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:18 pm to
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But I don't see how it's profitable. 5 cents per bottle x 10,000 bottles is $500. Take out the truck rental and the gasoline, and you get less than minimum wage from all the time you spent collecting, bagging, and transporting the cans.


Trust me ive crunched the numbers.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:19 pm to
Is it illegal to just transport? He didn't actually turn them in, correct?

Easiest defense ever.
Posted by BearsFan
Member since Mar 2016
1283 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:21 pm to
Am I understanding it correctly that they can basically charge him with a felony for bringing cans back into that state (do they have any proof of what he would do once he got there?). What if he wanted to build something out of the cans like this:
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15081 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:46 pm to
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It's not a victimless crime. If there is a $.10 refund, there was a $.10 charge. If they didn't come from that state, the recycling deposit balance would get out of whack. I'm not saying I agree with the deposit rules, but it's no different than scamming any other government agency.


You should run for Governor and propose building a wall to keep out the illegal bottles and cans
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