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re: McKnight shooter released from custody...Cliffnotes of Normand press conf inside
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:22 am to logjamming
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:22 am to logjamming
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How do you know he wasn't trying to break into the car? At what point is it ok to shoot? Once the door is open ? When the window is smashed? When he's actually in the car? I don't know, nor do I pretend to know. but to speak in black and white terms like that is foolish.
He may have been and this may be justified, but the evidence we have doesn't really support that hypothesis. There isn't any apparent damage to the car or window. Gasser isn't hurt, it appears.
Again, more information could change things.
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:23 am to TexasTiger1185
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What could his intent be other than to hurt me?
Take an arse whooping as a reminder to not cut anyone off in the future
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:27 am to PointsInCase
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There isn't any apparent damage to the car or window. Gasser isn't hurt, it appears.
So he has to wait to get a window smashed in? F that! How about Joe not be a hot head and not corner someone in and get out of his car.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:28 am to tiggah1981
You know Gasser was the one who cut off McKnight?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:35 am to PointsInCase
The road rage had been going on for a number of miles and minutes
Mcknight parked his car illegally next to Gasser
The side mirror is pushed in
The bullet entry and exit wounds and indicate that JM was at least partially inside of the car.
Everything points to Mcknight being the aggressor
You have gone from trying to present your legal case for what a jury would see to your opinion. It's fine to have an opinion but you are just trolling and don't want to acknowledge any evidence.
Mcknight parked his car illegally next to Gasser
The side mirror is pushed in
The bullet entry and exit wounds and indicate that JM was at least partially inside of the car.
Everything points to Mcknight being the aggressor
You have gone from trying to present your legal case for what a jury would see to your opinion. It's fine to have an opinion but you are just trolling and don't want to acknowledge any evidence.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:35 am to gatorhater08
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So he has to wait to get a window smashed in? F that! How about Joe not be a hot head and not corner someone in and get out of his car.
I'm not defending Joe, but Gasser has a history of being a hot head. It's not unreasonable to assume both Joe and Gasser were acting aggressively.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:37 am to TigerFred
We don't know who instigated the chase. We don't know what happened prior to the incident at the intersection. Everything does not point to McKnight being the only aggressor. It points to both individuals acting aggressively.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:42 am to PointsInCase
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Gasser has a history of being a hot head. It's not unreasonable to assume both Joe and Gasser were acting aggressively.
I agree but gasser wasn't the one out of his car. Maybe he learned his lesson from 10 years ago? Idk
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:43 am to PointsInCase
I was starting to think the Gasser dude might be a bit justified until I read about his prior incident there, at the same intersection. Dude tracked the guy down to beat his a$$ at the gas station 10 years ago. Nothing wrong with a reasonable self defense, but I think this Gasser dude was just looking to shoot. He wasn't scared for his life, just wanted to win the fight.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:46 am to gatorhater08
Definitely possible he learned his lesson. It will be interesting once we get more info.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:49 am to PointsInCase
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Definitely possible he learned his lesson. It will be interesting once we get more info.
I concur
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:50 am to PointsInCase
We know that Gasser has not been charged.
We know that Mcnight was the aggressor shortly before being shot.
We know that it started on GNO bridge.
We know where it ended.
We know where the vehicles were parked.
We know that one vehicle , which was driven by the deceased was illegally parked on side of the shooters vehicle.
We know that one person was shot at least partially inside of the shooters vehicle.
What happened between where it began until Mcknight parked and exited his vehicle is irrelevant to whether or not Mcnight was the aggressor when he exited his vehicle.
Right now we know the investigation is continuing. The time between the start and the end is going to factor into the investigation but the ending as we know right now Mcnight was clearly the aggressor.
We know that Mcnight was the aggressor shortly before being shot.
We know that it started on GNO bridge.
We know where it ended.
We know where the vehicles were parked.
We know that one vehicle , which was driven by the deceased was illegally parked on side of the shooters vehicle.
We know that one person was shot at least partially inside of the shooters vehicle.
What happened between where it began until Mcknight parked and exited his vehicle is irrelevant to whether or not Mcnight was the aggressor when he exited his vehicle.
Right now we know the investigation is continuing. The time between the start and the end is going to factor into the investigation but the ending as we know right now Mcnight was clearly the aggressor.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:51 am to gatorhater08
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I agree but gasser wasn't the one out of his car. Maybe he learned his lesson from 10 years ago? Idk
I agree...hopefully JM will learn as well..oh wait
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:52 am to TigerFred
You conveniently omitted Gasser's documented history of road rage aggression in similar circumstances.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:53 am to TexasTiger1185
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You know Gasser was the one who cut off McKnight?
Who gives a frick. Hell, I get cut off almost daily. There has never come a time where my anger compelled me to think it's a good idea to jump out of my car and approach someone's car in a threatening manner. I mean really, all you have to do is apply the brake, honk your horn, and go about your business. It's definitely not a cause for aggression.
ETA: With that said, the shooter should have just driven off if possible. I've got a lot more to lose than someone that gets so angry over inconsiderate driving.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:55 am to REG861
It has nothing to do with this situation.
It is a past action 10 years ago.
It is a past action 10 years ago.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:56 am to TigerFred
quote:- Yes
We know that Gasser has not been charged.
quote:- Speculation, JP never said this
We know that Mcnight was the aggressor shortly before being shot.
quote:- Yes
We know that it started on GNO bridge.
We know where it ended.
We know where the vehicles were parked.
quote:- Are we sure of this, was it a no parking zone? Somewhat speculative.
We know that one vehicle , which was driven by the deceased was illegally parked on side of the shooters vehicle.
quote:- This is a lie for now, coroner never said this.
We know that one person was shot at least partially inside of the shooters vehicle.
quote:- More wild speculation
What happened between where it began until Mcknight parked and exited his vehicle is irrelevant to whether or not Mcnight was the aggressor when he exited his vehicle.
Right now we know the investigation is continuing. The time between the start and the end is going to factor into the investigation but the ending as we know right now Mcnight was clearly the aggressor.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:57 am to 1860Tiger
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Dude tracked the guy down to beat his a$$ at the gas station 10 years ago.
Maybe Gasser wanted a fight with McKnight, then realized he was over his head, and shot McKnight and screamed self defense.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:57 am to PointsInCase
quote:the important evidence is:
but the evidence we have doesn't really support that hypothesis. There isn't any apparent damage to the car or window. Gasser isn't hurt, it appears.
1. All 3 shell casings inside of the car.
2. Entry wounds indicating that McKnight was leaning down towards shooter.
3. Gasser's testimony that he shot to keep McKnight from entering the vehicle.
In Louisiana is it justifiable legally to shoot someone if you think that is what is necessary to keep them from entering your car. You don't have to fear for your life. That is one situation that makes it justified, but not the only one.
Shooting to keep someone from entering your car is justified based on Louisiana law. And, the evidence presented does not prove that he shot him for any other reason.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 11:59 am
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:58 am to TigerFred
Because it doesn't suit your whoppingly one sided narrative? It's potential 404b evidence at trial.
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