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re: Martial Arts for Kids Recommendations

Posted on 8/31/16 at 8:43 pm to
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 8:43 pm to
Muay Thai kickboxers start very young and may fight professionally by the time they are around 15; many will retire before 30.

I'd like to start my daughter when she turns four or five and of course I want to do them too.

Ronda Rousey's mom, Ann Marie De Mars, was the first ever American woman to win a world championship in Judo. Just thought that was a fun fact.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 8:47 pm to
Oh and I started taekwondo at 7/8 and received my first degree black belt at 11.

I'd love to one day earn a judo black belt.
Posted by MWP
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:18 pm to
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then get that kid in the best striking discipline known to man, Muay Thai.


I have been doing MT off and on for about 10 years and have been boxing since I was 12 (44 now) and a good boxer can usually take a good MT guy if he can get by the kicks, knees, or elbows. Now you combine a boxers striking with the MT kicks, knees, and elbows and we are talking about a bad fricker that usually winds up in the UFC.
Posted by brgfather129
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:20 pm to
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Martial Arts for Kids Recommendations


Posted by stuntman
Florida
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:50 pm to
Almost the same story here. Wrestled in high school, boxed for a few years in my mid twenties, then got involved in mma at 30. 41 now.

Leg kicks are devastating, especially to people who have no clue how to check or slip em, which is nearly everyone on the planet. Plus, people drop their hands w the quickness when leg kicks are involved.

I know every person is different, but I felt a lot better about my stand-up after getting involved in MT.

You do hit on a dream fight of mine back in the day; Zambidis vs Mayweather.
This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:33 pm to
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If you had to pick ONE discipline to learn in order to defend yourself boxing is probably the best. Learning movement and how to throw a punch the right way are the best skills to know for self-defense


The conditioning one goes through when being trained as a boxer makes more of a difference than anything.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:57 pm to
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but in a real fight the last place you want to be is on the ground


The Gracie method does not ignore teaching punching and kicking, it teaches punching and kicking. Grappling is important because most street fights end up on the ground.

If you are in a street fight facing two or more enemies, it is best to try to run away instead of fighting. Not many kids with only some months of martial arts training are going to be able to win a fight against two or more enemies simultaneously.

An expert Grappler will beat an expert Boxer almost every time.
This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:00 pm to
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Ronda Rousey's mom, Ann Marie De Mars, was the first ever American woman to win a world championship in Judo. Just thought that was a fun fact.


Ronda Rousey's background is in Judo.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:05 pm to
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The Gracie method does not ignore teaching punching and kicking, it teaches punching and kicking.


News to me.
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:10 pm to
They have a somewhat new concept called Gracie combatives. I watched one of their guys hashing out the curriculum in a space we shared. They were teaching range and other stuff you wouldn't associate with bjj.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:11 pm to
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News to me.


Well then mix in some strike training to go along with grappling.

Most street and schoolyard fights end up on the ground. Grappling is just as important as punches and kicks, and with Grappling training, you might be able to avoid going to ground.

Most kids don't have the strength to punch or kick their way to a knock out. But if they are good at grappling, when the fight ends up on the ground, as it usually does, they can break an arm or finger or gouge an eye out. Any of those can be done quickly in a grapple and will almost certainly end the schoolyard fight against another youth.
This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 11:19 pm
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:13 pm to
Learning good fundamentals in boxing techniques is ones best bet.

I've seen guys who had decent boxing training send fools down the road pretty quick. They were usually smaller and weaker but a few pops to the nose/eye usually sent the bully running away.

Most of the best MMA fighters are very well grounded in boxing techniques and training.

Shotokan is a good one to learn as it involves more punching and some kicking.

BJJ is probably the best martial art for self-defense. Many LEOs will tell you that their BJJ training has bailed them out a many a time.

Boxing & jujitsu is the way to go.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:16 pm to
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They have a somewhat new concept called Gracie combatives.


Isn't that just a dvd program?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68446 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:19 pm to
Teaching range, spatial awareness proprioception should be among the first things taught.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:20 pm to
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Isn't that just a dvd program?


No, it's what we were trained in when I was with the Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg. It's more than a dvd. It's still being taught by LEO and military.
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4690 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:21 pm to
Nah, it's a live course. I watched them work it out over like 8 months. Mostly bjj with some real world awareness. Still WAY too focused on going to the ground for real life, but less sporty.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68446 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:22 pm to
No shite lol but many people don't know how she got started.

Her mom was in Baton Rouge last year when the judo nationals took place.

One of my first lessons I had done randori with a guy that was on the cuban national team for ten years; I felt so helpless
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18946 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:23 pm to
Flying karate is the best karate
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4690 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:25 pm to
I'm still kicking around the idea of judo with baby girl, great academy here mostly for kids. My area is about to put out some mma monsters. The wrestling is great, all the other stuff is here too. Two Olympic wrestlers out of one local high school lol.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68446 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:32 pm to
With the right teacher judo is a very good investment.

People may say that bjj is different but it wasn't always that. After all, Kano took what he thought were the best techniques in the different forms of jiu jitsu and developed his own art.

Back in those days there was a style of judo that was similar to the Gracie jiu jitsu, I think it was called kosen judo.

I don't buy the story of helio Gracie never done jiu jitsu as a kid because he was frailbut was able to teacher a class when his brother Carlos couldn't teach for whatever reason. But h taught it b cause he watched his brother all the time.
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