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Man fakes death for over 20 years. Is living with new family in Florida

Posted on 10/29/16 at 8:53 am
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8328 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 8:53 am
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Twenty-three years had passed since Linda Iseler had seen or heard from her husband. For more than a decade, the Indiana woman had assumed Richard Hoagland — who had mysteriously vanished after 11 years of marriage — was dead.


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After abandoning his family in 1993, Hoagland moved to Florida, where he constructed an entirely new existence from scratch. Police say he started by stealing the death certificate and adopting the identity of a man named Terry Jude Symansky — a fisherman who died in 1991. News about Hoagland’s arrest broke in July, but his ex-wife and the investigator who uncovered his true identity have spoken out on ABC’s “20/20.” “Using that death certificate, he applies for a birth certificate,” Cardillo told the ABC show. “He uses that birth certificate to get a driver’s license. Once he has that driver’s license, he starts establishing his name as Terry Symansky.”

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The truth began to surface when a nephew of the real Terry Symansky — who drowned in 1991 at the age of 33 — started an Ancestry.com family search, according to NBC affiliate WFLA. Knowing that his uncle was dead, the nephew was surprised to find someone with the same name living in Central Florida. “He looks up his real uncle Terry Symansky and realizes that he died in 1991, which the family knew,” Pasco County Sheriff Chris Nocco told the station. “He then starts scrolling down the page and sees more details that Terry Symanksy was remarried in 1995. He owns property in Pasco County, Florida.”

Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15288 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 8:55 am to
His old wife probably makes a horrible sammich
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37712 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 8:57 am to
What he get arrested for, stealing the dead dude's identity?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 8:57 am to
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Florida
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
36111 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:00 am to
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His old wife probably makes a horrible sammich

Posted by PairofDucks
Member since Jul 2016
4992 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:02 am to
Is that bad?
Posted by Unit225
Prairieville
Member since Aug 2014
1276 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:05 am to
I understand leaving a crazy wife but I don't see how he can walk away a from his kids? Why not just get a divorce?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62824 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:07 am to
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Using that death certificate, he applies for a birth certificate,


How's that work?
Posted by AlbertMeansWell
Member since Sep 2013
5555 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:07 am to
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Man fakes death for over 20 years. Is living with new family in Florida


No Tupac, no care.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10850 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:09 am to
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How's that work?


Go to the department of reincarnation and they'll issue you new paperwork.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:09 am to
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How's that work?



"I'm dead, here you can see, I'd like to see when I was born please. Don't make it weird, just give me the birth certificate."
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17097 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:09 am to
I thought this was an acceptable way to avoid the exorbitant costs of courts and divorce attorney's? Are we not supposed to do this?


Oh wait, I've said too much...now where'd I leave that BleachBit...hammer hammer hammer.....
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8328 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:10 am to
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How's that work?


Florida. It works.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62824 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:10 am to
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
58951 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:16 am to
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How's that work?


I wondered that too. Maybe the death certificate had his social
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
58951 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:17 am to
My 1st question, though, was how'd he steal the death certificate?
Posted by beantown
Nashville
Member since Sep 2015
3429 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:26 am to
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His old wife probably makes a horrible sammich



His wife makes a horrible gumbo. Didn't tell her soon enough. Better option
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55969 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:30 am to
interesting that he could actually pull this off ...not really sure why anyone would go through the trouble, though.

takes a pretty shitty person to let everyone you know think you have died, simply because you didn't want to tell the truth.
Posted by heypaul
The O-T Lounge
Member since May 2008
38099 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:35 am to
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My 1st question, though, was how'd he steal the death certificate?

That was my question.
Its easy to get a birth certificate if you have a death certificate. Its not for you obviously, because you're standing there asking for a birth certificate. Just tell the gubment worker it's your cousins and your helping get all his stuff together.

But you'd have to steal the death certificate, very few people would know how to do that.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15079 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 10:12 am to
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My 1st question, though, was how'd he steal the death certificate?


Go to your state's vital statistics dept. website, fill out the application, and pay the man. Get death certificate.
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